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@Rub8090 As someone who creates content on that platform, I can tell you right now that both sites are night and day to each other.

Chaturbate has Explicit Sexual Content all the time, sitewide.
Twitch does not and never will. Nudity does not equate to sex. It can be artistic and tasteful.

Twitch and Chaturbate are NOT the same. Not even close.

Well, you have plenty of ****** "slips" going on. Incredibly suggestive, or borderline nude content. I don't see the problem. At this point twitch is a soft core version of chaturbate.

The nude form is not immoral nor is it illegal -- and government cannot dictate Twitch content (nor should it). I write this with full appreciation for the human form and for societal norms and expectations. Is cable television a more empowered environment? Seriously?

A streamer got banned for showing a fan animation of a part of their stream that briefly featured a girl character covered in ***** with nothing showing but it was enough to “cross the line” for TOS.

This is upsetting, because any other time a character could be covered in tomato sauce or something less ridiculous from head to toe and THAT would fly under the radar.

I understand Twitch tried to take a risk and rolled it back because too many people took advantage of this in their streams to show off their body as much as possible, but this severely made Twitch an enemy of Art and artists alike unjustly.

Twitch I understand you have a fulfillment to your advertisers about keeping your platform clean, but even YouTube has a more relaxed guideline about art than this. What’s the point of advising viewers of their discretion before watching a stream then? I the viewer understand the risks of choosing to watch the streamer and a little bit of cussing or the “female” form isn’t offensive to me.

Please relax the rule for artists, they don’t deserve to be lumped together with people who intended their streams to be sexualized. An artist can’t even start to form a sketch without Twitch pointing and screaming that it’s nudity.

And if Twitch intends to make more guidelines on the fly, PLEASE make it clear with their users and partners through the available channels directly instead of just sneaking it in without notice.

Do not allow nudity and start to remove all these censor bars and ridiculousness that has now infested every part of Twitch. We all know that a huge segment of this platform's viewers are children. We also universally know that *********** or almost *********** are not good for children or even adults at times. People literally have *********** additions, just like gambling. This is something children should not be exposed to and it's getting pretty gross that we as a Twitch community like to push the line to as close to **** as we can get.

Artistic nudity is fine in the right medium, this is not the right medium at all because of how many children access this platform. Children don't need to be exposed to that. Especially since we don't know what their life situation is.

Sure we can take the argument of "well where are the parents", as I just said. We don't know what their life situation is, what if their parents are absent in their life, what if their parents are hurting them in some way... The list goes on. We as a community and a society have a duty to protect all children from things that could be harmful to them. Such as *********** or potentially even nudity. What if that is a trigger to a child that has been harmed? They accidentally click on a link because they don't understand what they are accessing? Twitch should be a welcoming place for expression, but expression that could potentially harm a child has no place.

It is really unfortunate because this is now driving me away from this platform, a platform I genuinely enjoy. I am starting to wish there was a better alternative though that didn't allow this repulsive form of behavior.

To the original posters argument of games already showing nudity, that should not be allowed to be shown on Twitch either. We should be forcing streamers to blur that content. We should not under any circumstances allow content that could potentially harm or corrupt the mind of a child.

We as a society owe this to them. As they get older and their brain is more developed, how they get exposed to nudity can become their choice or even the schools responsibility, where their exposure is in a controlled educational manner. Not in some Twitch channel where people can DM each other, make sexual remarks, etc. That just opens up a whole can of worms that can lead to some very dangerous behavior. Behavior that I want no place being a part of or seeing....

Update: I will also add that putting "Mature content" notifications where you click or any of those other "protection" mechanisms is not enough. Over a decade ago when I was 14 I made my first Ebay account and actually started selling things on Ebay. As crazy as that sounds. I was actually making money doing it though. Obviously that is not allowed even to this day on Ebay for a variety of reasons. Suffice to say, clearly their "child protection" mechanisms did nothing to stop me at the time though.

Sabzena: Ridiculous! Why? At least present a reason for your POV!

Nudity is natural and is not harmful in any way. Nordic sauna culture, for one example, involves general nudity to no ill effect on its populace.

One provable negative effect can be attributed to shame regarding nudity and body image, so your irrational negativity is the issue.

The Attire rules should be amended to say that implied nudism is not allowed. The Streamer's clothing must be visible as well as cover female nipples and underbust.

It should be against the rules to present as naked even if nipples are out of frame, covered or not. If you are trying to look naked you should be banned.

Twerking is not a form of art it is a sexual stripper dance and shouldn’t be allowed on your platform if people want to get twerking videos they can always use **** sites or other platforms for that kinda content you have thousands of minors watching these ***** and jerking off and sending very inappropriate comments in the chats of those user that are very sexual.

Twerking is not a form of art it is a sexual stripper dance and shouldn’t be allowed on your platform if people want to get twerking videos they can always use **** sites or other platforms for that kinda content you have thousands of minors watching these ***** and jerking off and sending very inappropriate comments in the chats of those user that are very sexual.

I don't have time to give all my thoughts here, but I found out about the policy change and rollback just today and I want to say it was close but had major issues with wording that clearly was abused.

I hope Twitch takes this as an opportunity to adjust and improve wording and enforcement (example: instead of "Sexual Content," use "Nudity" as the label) instead of throwing it all out for fear of another disaster.

I'm an artist who draws non-sexual nudes and I can't stream my work because of the current state of the policy. Please improve it, don't give up on it altogether.

The recent policy changes (then rollback) were so close to being a really welcome change.

Patch notes for the change should've made a more clear note that avatars in place of the person still need to follow the attire rules (even if that rule didn't change, it should've been noted again).

Patch notes should've included some examples, it needs some line in the sand for people to know what's okay. I saw a lot of talks on if an erection was too sexual, which may vary on context, but is that any better or different than a large flaccid one? Probably not. I feel like the "show but don't use" mentality worked okay, pairing along with no fluids.

There is also the problem from raids and ban spam to bring down any creator abiding by the new TOS, this put a damper and compounded the chaos. They even got a streamer drawing the Statue of David, which is one of the prime examples of artistic nudity. There were plenty of other streamers that I felt were well within the new TOS, obviously there were those that did not.

There's also just the massive influx of activity from the change, which may not last much past a week as the next internet topic comes around. Doing a full backpedal may not have been the best thing to do, instead refine the policy in these introductory days. This didn't help from other streamers reacting in an over the top way to new TOS friendly content, the reaction makes the TOS friendly art no longer seem TOS. This would likely fade rapidly with time.

Site concerns was a pretty massive failure, and probably an issue with payment providers too. The streams with content labels were not visibly different than anything else. Censoring the thumbnail (with a setting to always show), and likely some other filter/flag to show this content from not only the homepage, but searches and category listings.

If I was on the board making decisions for this here's what I would bring up for allowing these policies:
Manual moderation of art category for a couple days. I saw streams with Twitch staff talking then a hate raid appeared and the channel got autobanned.
Patch notes notating all relevant rules (stating attire rule still applies for virtual streamers / vtubers). With some examples.
For things non-TOS friendly, need to actually say what about the art was not TOS friendly in the ban, it was just confusion from artists doing their best to abide by the TOS.
Actually commit for a period of time with smaller adjustments to policies to catch things you didn't think about, keep daily blog posts in this intro phase with more examples as needed.
In the rollback post, the AI nudity thing is such a cop out excuse. Blocking AI nudity is likely reasonable enough, since it's not an artist going through the motions of creating art.

This has potential to be a really nice change for artists that happen to do nude art that don't want to be on other, less active platforms.
I felt this update was 80% of the way there, but released anyways. That last 20% backfired so badly. I hope you reconsider in time.

The people saying "more art" 100% know that it will be farmed for views, the same way hot tub and yoga streams are, in a sexualized nature.

For every 1 actual artist, there will be scores more of men and women belittling it, and/or using it as a way to get viewers for lewd behavior.

Everyone knows this. Why do you all act like its not a thing?

Twitch should subdomain "gaming" and "adult" (e.g. adult.twitch.tv) if they really want to go that route.

I understand why streamers want to do it (abuse art categories for lewd). Sex sells. And there's some stigma for signing up for a Patreon or OF for nudes... but if its on Twitch, its quasi-free and "no big deal".

Putting it into its on site, with only *those* categories would allow it to be completely separated. 14 year olds watch Twitch. They can't even go see a rated R movie, and they shouldn't be able to see someone abusing the art categories for views.

Agreed. Art is about free expression. Freedom for the audience, freedom for the creator. One good thing about art -- when it hits you feel no pain nor do you suffer any wounds. And it is purely voluntary. More art, please, and more freedom for authors and their audience.

That would be *heavily* abused.

@Nanosnaker_VT nudity has never been an 18+ thing don't misconstrue nudity as **** and yes 13 year olds see nudity anyway nudity is classified under PG/pg-13 on film classifications. You are projecting way too hard.

So you are ok with 13 year old kids to see full nudity? I wonder why websites that are mainly focusing on that content are 18+... if you really want that type of creativity there are plenty more websites to go and create content there.

Twitch might as well remain a platform for what it was intended mainly, gaming.

@UnavailableUsername8

OMFG... I couldn't find a word too describe your thought's...

But I guess that you are such a Sneaky Pete, that is only in "Just Chatting"-Channels like you described yourself!

I'm Gamer and a Hardware-*****, some People would say...

But thx for your pointless Input :D

Well put, thanks for this.

Think Twitch is well overdue for a Twitch After Dark Adult Content Category already.