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Da es eigentlich um den Content / den Inhalt des Streams gehen sollte! Und dadurch Künstler wie Fotografen*innen oder auch Bodypainter*innen in ihrem Handwerk eingeschränkt werden! Ich persönlich sehe dies als Zumutung für die Kunst daraus perse.. Warum dürfen diese ihre Modelle nicht zur Schau stellen! Ich finde dies einen Eingriff von Twitch selbst, als Frechheit gegenüber die Kunst des sozusagenden Künstlers an sich!

Natürlich muss man nicht zwingend überall Nippel und co. sehen, aber dies ist sozusagen wieder eine Streitfrage...

Man kann ja auch sozusagen Twitch conform dem Model (l), einem wie auch in anderen Branchen üblich Aufkleber oder ähnliches aufbringen um damit Regelkonform zu sein!

Bitte liebes Twitch, bringt eine Sperre für Kinder unter 18 Jahren, damit diese keinen Einblick in solchen Streams bekommen!
Um Kinder/Jugendliche und auch angehende Erwachsene (Teenager) vor solch einen Content zu beschützen!

Oder als Idee; fügt doch einfach ein neues Icon wie z.B.: Bits/Prime etc. ein. Für Personen die gerade 18 geworden sind ein, dass dem Streamer/Broadcaster mitteilt... "Hey hier befindet sich eine halbwegs erwachsene Person, ich achte eventuell etwas mehr auf meine Wortwahl!?"... nur so als Beispiel

Mich persönlich betrifft dies kaum, sehe aber den Punkt der Künstler*innen darin; wobei ich selbst auch gerne mal wenn gegeben schöne Motive ohne jegliche Nacktheit fotografiere!

Ich hoffe dies ist ein guter Input für Twitch damit man dies mal zeitgemäß anpassen kann, wir befinden uns nicht mehr im Jahre 19xx wo man für solche Sachen (Kunst) schief angesehen wurde!

Ich widme dieses Kommentar allen Affiliates, Creators & Partnern, die dadurch leider in einer sozusagen denn Grauzone agieren müssen!

MfG
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Family Friendly Platform.... nudity in any form should be an instant ban from the company... those of you negatively commenting must not have kids. As a mother, seeing streams like "Licking Mics" or Licking and sucking ears" or "reviewing Popscicles/suckers" is highly distasteful and offensive on a platform that makes claims towards being a family friendly environment for all to enjoy. There are plenty of other platforms that have means of barring access to adult orientated content that these "artists" can take their content to.

DO NOT TRY TO VALIDATE EXPOSING CHILDREN TO NUDITY OR ADULT ORIENTATED CONTENT!

Instead consider how you would feel as a parent if your child brought you their tablet and its a half nude person doing sexually suggestive things on twitch and they want to know what they are doing and why.

I understand many consider it a personal attack on their creativity; to you i say, find an appropriate platform for your work then. Because i can honestly say this, if my child finds something like that and brings it to me, i will take legal action for my child being exposed to that **** on what is supposed to be a family friendly and safe platform for all ages to enjoy sharing and viewing unique content <3

#familyfriendly #imisstheoldtwitch #enforcerules #protectourbabiesandminors

Twitch.tv does very little to prevent harm to users by allowing global access to adult (read sexually suggestive) content. They are not enforcing their own policies. https://www.twitch.tv/p/legal/

People are far to up tight, clothes shouldn't matter. Stop being so prude.

Twitch wont say no to the extra money, at least not until they get in trouble for it.

Pretty damn easy to make a Figure Painting section, which implies there will be nudity as that's generally part of figure painting/drawing, and put related broadcasts there and for any accounts that go in there to watch to be verified. If someone lies about their identity and age, well that is beyond everyone else's control.

If you're streaming other kind of nudity, you're *probably* painting porn/erotic art, and so you shouldn't be streaming so not very hard to distinguish content. In art, the question to answer is "what function does nudity serve?" If it's to arouse or really has no purpose to the greater concept of the image (ie. huge ridiculous cleavage), well then it probably shouldn't be streamed.

Considering the amount of swearing and adult conversation some streams have, I think Twitch needs a better solution for separating children from adults because that kind of stuff isn't appropriate for children either.

This sounds like banning of educational diagrams in women's health books and TV programs. Do you want women to breast feed in a tiny bathroom stall too? Ludicrous!

So by streaming on twitch and running your business... you are completely hopeless what YOU show on YOUR channel because some other people would like to stream and show a creative process that has since been hindered? How about you wake the fuck up and use your fucking brain the next time you try constructing an argument. If you can't run your business because someone else is advocating for something or doing something a little different, you should probably be mindlessly flipping burgers.

going out of your way to see it or do it in games will lead to a ban, the only parts that are allowed are the unavoidable/story parts, therefore you can draw anything you want, as long as the focus isn't nudity or going out of your way to create nudity, which is completely impossible

"I'm a Creative streamer. Long before Creative was a thing. I don't want nudity as part of broadcasts. Why? Several reasons. I run a business. Customers come to my channel to see my work, and one of the problems with nudity is that I don't want my business to be associated with it - Be it fine arts or hentai."

This argument is a joke right? there is nudity, sex, prostitution, violence, and gore all over twitch. if you don't want to be associated with it then why are you on twitch?

"That brings up the second reason why I don't want nudity. What is art, and what is porn? There's no hard line, and just because something isn't porn or distasteful to you, doesn't mean it isn't for others. I believe that hentai for instance, is porn. But ask any person who draws hentai, and they'll say it isn't. That it's art (The two are not mutually exclusive)."

So rather than have that discussion, we should all just give in to censorship?

"Creative isn't 18+, and it shouldn't be. There's no good way to allow children browsing Creative with, or without their parents, when there are people drawing dicks in there. (And setting channels to "mature" doesn't do jack)"

just like there is no way to ban kids from watching 18+ games. So we should ban those too right? Let's remove Rust, GTA, Call of duty, Battlefield, etc.

"There's no real good way to moderate this. Even without nudity allowed we've seen countless examples of people crossing the line, be it artful drawing or straight up porn, that have allowed to stream for hours before being shut down. There's no incentive at Twitch to have an admin browsing Creative constantly, verifying that all broadcasts that display genitalia are not crossing whatever arbitrary line Twitch would have to set on "What's porn?"

this is false there's an easy way to moderate it, and I shared this idea with Monkey on Strike a while back. Make it so only approved people can do it, whether it be partners or just an application process. that way you stop all the people who would stream nudity as a form of trolling.

"There are so many things to do in art. If you can't do nudity on stream, it's not that big of a deal, in my honest opinion."

That's because you do leather working and it isn't part of your process, stream, or art. So why fight for others? Nudity isn't part of my art or stream, but I still support others in their choice to fight for the freedom of expression. maybe we could move past seeing so much fan art and start seeing more original works if we allowed more freedom of expression. Diversity on art is a good thing in my opinion.

"The amount of risky content on JTV back when I broadcasted on there was actually enough to make me not want to share my broadcast with people I knew - It had much looser content guidelines, and as a result, it ended up being something I for instance wouldn't want to show my parents, because you never knew when a cam girl was building up an audience she'd then move over to an actual camsite (They did this a lot), or just straight up porn streams. (Porn streams could run for hours as long as they didn't hit frontpage, so if viewer numbers got too high, the broadcaster would put on a weird clown video or something to make part of the audience leave - The lengths people would go just to broadcast porn was stupid - The issue was well known by one of the mods I spoke with at the time) - I don't want Twitch to risk this being anywhere near a possibility to become the norm on their site."

what has this got to do with allowing nudity in art? we aren't talking about having streamers be naked. we are talking about painting and drawing here, not a cam show.