When appealing muted music on a VOD, add an option for "Claimant Is Not Actually the Copyright Holder"
I recently had a GB Tetris stream get muted because the copyright bot's song IDing listed "Ikon Ringtones" as the owner of the song.
I can say with full confidence that "Ikon Ringtones" does NOT own Hirokazu Tanaka's 8-bit rendition of a Russian folk song. And that's been the problem for years - bad actors clowning around with copyright claims for video game music they don't own. Not only do establishments like "Ikon Ringtones" get away with it for using video game music as ringtone options, insignificant nobody DJs have also been known to do it when they sample music from a video game and then streamers get muted for nothing more than playing a video game.
It's high time Twitch allows us to appeal muted streams based on the supposed claimant clearly not owning the rights to the music, and puts more manual effort into identifying these bad actors and disqualifying them from further copyright claims without definitive proof that they are the owner of the copyrighted work.
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jennykim5
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The same thing happened to me today. I was playing Donkey Kong Country 1 and the Aquatic Ambience track (composed by David Wise) got muted in my VOD because someone named Abdoul Abouna is using it as background music in a rap track. As far as I know, he doesn’t own the copyright to the original game music, yet the system still flagged it.
I’m not going to risk a perjury-based appeal over a three-minute mute, but it definitely feels like an abuse or major flaw in the content ID system.
By the way, if anyone’s curious about what I do outside streaming, you can check https://rancleaners.com/ -
Lucky_Dagger
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Yeah i saw Hackerling got hit with a takedown on youtube for a similar reason. Someone did a cover of a splatoon 2 octo expansion track and the distributor claimed her video where she streamed playing the whole expansion again on the anniversary of ot's release.
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TikTakkMelon
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Abusive DMCA claims are a real problem that needs to be dealt with. The fact you have to give your personal information to appeal fraudulent claims is also a HUGE safety issue.
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Leland_Iko_Music
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I still get muted / copyright claims when I play classical pieces such as Beethoven or Bach (live, not background music recordings). I also get muted for my own original works for which I am the copyright owner, but these are unmuted within 10 seconds of submitting a dispute. It would be useful to have an optional comments field on the dispute form to explain in cases where there is a false attribution since often there is a claim for a song where what is actually being played bears no resemblance to the claimed work.
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MickRocc
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I have had this issue too! I streamed Super Mario Bros Wonder yesterday as well as a bunch of short Sonic fan game demos. The Sonic stuff was fine, but the Super Mario Bros Wonder part was muted by a claimant named Roli who had no association with that game's development and no association with Nintendo at all.
To make things stranger, I listened to that part of the VOD, and the part of it that was mute wasn't even the game audio. The game game was claimed, but MY VOICE was what was muted. I wasn't even attempting to beatbox anything either. I was just talking! I got literally silenced by someone abusing the DMCA claim system!
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Kagoriin
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I recently played zelda ocarina of time. And beside that it's a really popular game, there are so many remixes with sounds from the game that every stream gets muted.
I agree that twitch should so anything about it like u said.
My streams are online for like 1 week and now I have to hope that it's unmuted so I can download it 💀
This takes away the fun from streaming on twitch, if old games have alot remixes and the ORIGINAL game sound gets mutet bc of them. I mean what
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BerithVT
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Had this happen today with a Dying Light track, the person listed as the copyright owner on the appeal muted audio page was someone called Beatz Aboelezz but the song is Strife by Pawel Blaszczak :/
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FireStingray05
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I just had this happen today. I was streaming Kirby Super Star and the song that plays at the save points in The Great Cave Offensive, "Rest Area", got claimed in the vod by some weirdo named "Marcus D" and titled it "Save Cave Reprise". The actual composers for Kirby Super Star are Jun Ishikawa and Dan Miyakawa. When I went to appeal it, the page wants me to dox myself by providing my name and address which makes me VERY uncomfortable. I wish there was a way to appeal it anonymously. In the meantime I'm going to look for another streaming site that's less aggressive about issuing copyright claims because some random Tiktok mumble rapper used the 19th bar of a song in their video one time and now thinks they're entitled to claiming everyone. :(
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MaximzM
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i actually had the same thing happen to me just today as ghostmaw did i was playing donkey kong country 1 and the aquatic ambience song (which is actually composed by David Wise) that is in donkey kong country 1 just got muted in my vod because of some guy named Abdoul Abouna who is using it as background music for his raptrack, im pretty sure he doesnt not own the copyright to it but also im not bout to go through a fullon risk-of-perjury trying to appeal it, over a 3 minute mute...its an abuse of the system.
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GeneralJenobi
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So I got in contact with twitch support finally after trying for months (was being muted for Zelda) and they said they were contacting Audible Magic to try to fix the algorithm.
What I gleaned was that they've done what they can against the songs that are out there (may or may not work, cause these copyrighting artists just update their profiles and change wording. Also new ones appear every day).
They said the "issue had been resolved with Audible Magic", but I sincerely doubt it. I think it may be beyond anyone's control at this point. Much like the internet itself.
WHAT YOU CAN DO - just appeal the mute, say you did not use the song it says, and they'll unmute your VOD in like 30 mins. You won't get a copyright strike. Or at least I haven't yet, and this has happened like 6 times.
Sending Twitch support the Reddit page about this seemed to make them finally take me seriously, so I recommend sending supporting links with your email.
Oh and I wouldn't bother reporting them to Nintendo. Despite what we've all heard, they don't seem to care about copyrights lol. Apple Music too. Neither have done a thing lol.
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SpiritGamerNateX
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I've just got muted audio after streaming Super Mario Bros. Wonder, by some person named "Roli". Who I have never seen, I looked up this "Roli" person and I found nothing. I don't even think this "Roli" person is even real!
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Ghostmaw
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Yep, just had a portion of my VOD that had donkey kong country's 'aquatic ambience' as quiet background noise while I talked to my chat flagged as some random guys rap track that uses the song in the background. Not sure if its even worth appealing tbh.
The current system just allows anyone to abuse it and say 'actually thats my audio' and its on streamers to appeal it, that's super messed up. Shouldn't have to go into a full on risk-of-perjury form to defend ourselves from blatantly false claims (human or automated).
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Boto66y
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Recently got muted audio because someone had reposted super mario sunshine music as a Tiktok sound.
Extremely annoying. I can understand and deal with muted audio from the rights holder, but not from some rando thats reuploading it. -
WuskyT
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This is unfortunately still going on, I just had the Undertale song It's Raining Somewhere Else get muted in my VOD because of someone I've never heard of who sampled it
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TheRamsWay
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Yup, that's definitely an issue and an infuriating one.
I had the same issue as @SapphireDrew with Splatoon music getting copyrighted by a "Will Hilton". I did get a reply from the label telling me they were aware of that and working on getting it deleted, a few weeks later I had sound on my VODs again even tho the video manager still tells me there's muted music.
Now it's happening again with Super Mario Bros Wonder getting copyrighted by some "Roli" guy. Turns out it's already been taken care of since their illegal reuploads aren't online anymore, but Twitch hasn't received the memo and in the meantime I still can't create a highlight for my VODs without them getting muted, I can't download them and reupload them later since you have to be an affiliate for that, but I can waste my time sending an appeal for each and every VOD (which seems to have a legal value, why do I need to fill a legal form to tell Twitch that their bot is muting something that the "copyright holder" doesn't even own?) and probably never get a reply.
We need Twitch to actually make sure that random people can't just claim whatever they want and cause issues to everyone on the platform, or give us actual options to counteract that. I know what gets played on my stream, I don't need Twitch to run a bot muting random bits on my VODs and to disable auto VOD publishing, and it shouldn't be so hard for me to restore that audio. These people are exploiting the fact that everything on platforms like Twitch is automated, and that it's not done well, I guess to get some money from their claims, and it makes no sense that Twitch doesn't take action against that.
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MaikDeM
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Seconding with my own similar issue.
On a Yakuza stream, "Baka Mitai" was claimed for copyright and muted. If it were Sega or RGG Studios or something, totally fine, but the claim calls it:
"I'm Baka Mitaing Ova ***** & They Tryin 2 Deepfake Me Again
Viper"Searching returns plenty of results, but absolutely nothing to relating to Yakuza/Like A Dragon or ownership of "Baka Mitai". Just this scam.
There needs to be a specific Appeal option for this scenario.
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Oshimia_
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Currently having half of my videos getting muted sections because I'm using copyright free music from Pixabay (which specifically does not allow people to claim copyright on the music they publish) that has been effectively stolen by someone calling themselves "Join Hiddlestone". It appears that this person is doing this a lot and has *lots* of tracks that appear to be nothing more than repackaged free music from places like Pixabay. Going by the comment list this appears to be a growing problem and Twitch needs to do something about it.
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TuuliKauri
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Twitch, please take action and report this ongoing situation to your vendor. You are receiving poor service from them that does not uphold copyright. They are allowing false claimants to exist in their system, and not taking action to remedy it.
In addition, Twitch would receive better service if Creators were able to report these false claimants as this userVoice suggests, and then Twitch can advocate on behalf of Creators and Viewers for better copyright services.
This is an ongoing issue. I am using CCBYSA music in my intro, which is muted every time due to a false attribution error to another artist in the database. This means I need to Appeal Muted Audio for every stream, which I have been doing; and the appeal has been granted every time. However the music continues to be automatically detected and muted, despite it being the exact same as the granted appeals every time.
I have also now received an email from Twitch "Warning: Copyrighted audio detected in your VOD(s)". This email states that due to my repeated muted audio, VODs are unpublished and clips deleted. This is to protect against possible DMCA claims. There's also a link "You can learn more about copyrighted audio warnings in this help article." but the page 404's. https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/audible-magic
I have been in touch with the true artist and copyright holder, who is also attempting to have their music released from these false claims. I have provided them info about the copyright detection.
I have been in touch with the 3rd party vendor "Audible Magic" that Twitch uses, in order to report this false claim - the info exists in their database, and the detection is provided by them. Possibly it was through a fraudulent claim submission by the false claimant. However I reached out to them through a general support channel and they have not responded.
I also cannot find a copy of the supposed song that is being infringed - it does not appear to have been published online.
This whole situation is really an example of how the bigger system (beyond Twitch) is broken. BUT I sincerely hope that Twitch takes the issue on-board. By advocating for better copyright protection, and putting in place tools that help to do that (like reports of false claims), you are helping creators, musicians, and upholding Creative Commons music rights. I'm just one streamer. The musician who's music is falsely claimed is just one musician. But Twitch could collect these reports and submit thousands of them on behalf of musicians and in support of creative and legal use of music.
Thanks.
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HeadHunterrjr
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ive had near enough half my streams muted while playing Sunkenland cause apparently it picked up Dreamy ocean waves with bonfire flames sounds from Sounds of planet earth??? xD
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Alirien14
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I've had a track from Epidemic Sound be continually muted in recent weeks as Twitch believes it to be a differently titled song by a Noah Oliver, the only result for which that I can find is a TikTok audio with a distorted voice layered over the first 10-20 seconds. The rest of the song is identical. I haven't bothered appealing because it hasn't truly been a problem for me, and I'm going to alert ES to the issue, but I agree that "Inaccurate Content ID" or "Claimant is Incorrect Copyright Holder" should be options for appeals.