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1. Bans should be of a consequential length

   Top streamers get banned for less than a weekend for every kind of offense, DMCA included, only to come back and get more attention and money thrown at them for blatantly violating the ToS. What kind of message does it send that nearly every top streamer on Twitch right now has received some number of bans? As it is now streamers might as well get banned on purpose, because currently it's paid PTO with a raise on return to work. Stop catering to the top streamers and actually make your bans consistent and of a consequential length.

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2. Option to download the original unmuted version of a VOD

   Have an option to download and/or export the original unmuted version of the VOD, if the streamer wishes to export the unmuted version to YouTube or download the unmuted version to edit out the copyrighted music, so the streamer has an unmuted version for a highlight.

   Another potential option is to have the same thing, but make it a tool on the Twitch website (like where the past broadcasts are stored). As in, having the streamer edit out unmuted parts, but make it so they're not just separate VODS- have the choice to merge them together.

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3. Twitch, Amazon Music, Audio Fingerprint and DMCA Solution

   Recently a lot of streamers have been getting DMCA notices for streams that are 2-3 years old. 50 Cent - In Da Club has been flagged on many channels along with other music from RIAA. This is a problem because streamers are now scared of getting punished or banned off the platform for listening to the music they want to listen to. This is not good for the longevity of the platform if it wants to survive the entertainment industry.

   To be brutally honest, Twitch is not good for the music industry at all. If a streamer has 10,000 viewers and is listening to a song it only counts for one single stream/play/view instead of 10,000 which is what the music industry wants. They want to be able to claim more streams and plays on their songs as that's how they make money.

   Twitch is owned by Amazon, which also owns Amazon Music. Amazon needs to purchase rights to a larger range of music for their Music platform. Amazon is a TRILLION DOLLAR market cap company so I think they have more than enough funds to be able to purchase some streaming rights to more songs.

   With a wider range of music to play on the Music app, Twitch could implement Amazon Music within a broadcast and can then count viewers towards streams for the Music played.

   This will only work if the streamer is listening to the music through Amazon Music. If they are listening to a copyrighted song that's not on Amazon Music, then they should not broadcast unless they want the possibility of getting a DMCA notice. Amazon and Twitch can only enforce what is within their control.

   Another solution would be for Twitch to implement and use other music platforms such as Spotify, Soundcloud, Apple Music and their streaming rights for music.

   Another solution is to use audio fingerprint matchers like Shazam to identify what music is being played in the background. Then counting the streamers viewers as listeners to whatever song is being played.

   Overall, Twitch needs to be able to match the music that's being played in a live stream and count the number of viewers/listeners the streamer has. If they cannot solve this streamers will not be able to broadcast while listening to their favorite music without getting a DMCA.

   I do not believe anyone within the past few weeks should have any sort of strike or punishment on their channel for past music DMCA/copyright notices.

   Recently a lot of streamers have been getting DMCA notices for streams that are 2-3 years old. 50 Cent - In Da Club has been flagged on many channels along with other music from RIAA. This is a problem because streamers are now scared of getting punished or banned off the platform for listening to the music they want to listen to. This is not good for the longevity of the platform if it wants to survive the entertainment industry.

   To be brutally honest, Twitch is not good for the music industry at all. If a streamer has 10,000 viewers… more

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4. VOD recovery

   Having a way to recover VOD's after deletion. I cancelled prime membership and completely forgot it was connected to twitch. I now only have parts 2 to 6 of my FNAF Security Breach lives. I now can't post this as a 6 part series anywhere else

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5. Audio completely gone from stream vod even tho there was no music or copywrite able stuff

   i stream bed was On Minecraft for four hours with my friend, there was no background music or copywrite things in it. I know theres was audio in it because at the begining my friend made me realize i was muted on both my headphones and stream so i unmute on both to make sure this worked i went in to my stream and made random noise to make sure it was working while a little quite there's was definitely audio in it.
   I know for a fact it wasn´t my mic messing up cuz if it was my friend who i was talking to via discord could still hear me.
   even if my mic did mess up you should have been able to here the in game noises such as breaking block and attacking players, but theres was none completely no nosie

   i stream bed was On Minecraft for four hours with my friend, there was no background music or copywrite things in it. I know theres was audio in it because at the begining my friend made me realize i was muted on both my headphones and stream so i unmute on both to make sure this worked i went in to my stream and made random noise to make sure it was working while a little quite there's was definitely audio in it.
   I know for a fact it wasn´t my mic messing up cuz if it was my friend… more

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6. Allow a Amazon Music Player for each twitch channel

   Buy the rights and create a music catalog for streamers to pick and use on their stream legally aka Amazon Music Player. If Instagram and Facebook users can allow music clips on their own content or profiles then twitch can definitely allow users to use music legally on their channels. This is beneficial for the content creator, musical artists, and Twitch. More revenue will be generated overall by allowing this and also it will help filter out who is using this legally and illegally. DMCA's should only be used for people abusing this and not using for example an amazon music player on their channel. This could really help make more money for everyone all around. Get with the program and give the people what they want Twitch! Without streamers, there would be no Twitch!

   Buy the rights and create a music catalog for streamers to pick and use on their stream legally aka Amazon Music Player. If Instagram and Facebook users can allow music clips on their own content or profiles then twitch can definitely allow users to use music legally on their channels. This is beneficial for the content creator, musical artists, and Twitch. More revenue will be generated overall by allowing this and also it will help filter out who is using this legally and illegally. DMCA's should only be used for people abusing this and not using for example an amazon… more

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7. Priorities regarding Clips Management + DMCA notifs

   I am extremely confused why "Sort & Delete Clips by date, game, or view count" is being pushed back to Q3/Q4 of 2021. That is an entire year from now and is unacceptable given the recent situation regarding clips being targeted for DMCA because of the system's failures to protect creators.

   Twitch has prioritized VOD management over clips. Let me tell you something, as someone who has used the website for years and is a full time streamer that manages many other stream channels big and small: VOD management is NOT what people need more tools for at this time. Allow me to explain why.
   VODs are already extremely easy to manage. They are deleted after 60 days regardless of action, and as such are never overwhelming to sort through because there will always be a finite number of VODs usually beneath or around the number of 60 if you were to stream every single day. You can delete them with ease as of right now.

   Clips on the other hand quickly accumulate on an exponential scale as your stream grows in size. A small streamer may have hundreds of clips. A medium sized streamer may have tens of thousands of clips. A large streamer can have HUNDREDS of thousands of clips. We currently have NO tools to manage or sort through clips at this time. The search function for clips literally is broken in the dashboard and doesn't work correctly. You cannot even sort by date if you have over a certain threshold because the site itself fails to organize them all.
   I have tried to search so many times for my "Bloodborne" clips with the manager, which was years back, and it just completely drops the search. I have to use third party tools to locate old clips because Twitch's system just plain doesn't work or allow for it. That is horrible. I cannot even go and look at clips I may want to pull up for entertainment's sake, or for the sake of wanting to delete something specific.
   I also cannot stress how bad it is for the end user outside of the Dashboard, where it's actually impossible to find any specific clip because they can only sort by recently made clips. As I said, they have to use third party websites. That is unacceptable.

   Literally no aspect of the clip system has any form of filtration, and this is a huge problem clearly. In fact, out of everything that happened this year, the clips system vulnerability has to be by far the biggest issue regarding DMCA. Not VODs. Clips. VODs are absolutely not what should be coming first.

   You have given editors access for clip management finally, which took way too long I might add as myself and several large streamers have been requesting this for years. However, what good is that if editors are just as stuck as the streamer was beforehand? They have no tools. Do you expect people to be able to sit down and sort through hundreds of thousands of VODs with no means of sorting them by game, date, timestamp, created by, etc? It's a fool's errand. A single stream of someone with over 5000 views is potentially another 10000 clips.
   And what if there are vulnerabilities within those clips? Good luck finding them!
   You only have given us the option of a complete wipe, which as you must know by now, is wildly unpopular.

   Batches of VODS to unpublish/delete should not take an entire quarter to make, but it's also not terribly important because VODs are EASY to manage as they are right now. Multi-track audio+ Twitch Studio shouldnt be a priority because it already functions in OBS and honestly if Live DMCAs happen that system is completely pointless. It also only treats the symptoms of the DMCA and not the root cause, but that's a whole another topic.

   These priorities feel just plain negligent of the issue at hand.

   A human being literally cannot manage clips if you've got any sort of following on Twitch. We NEED management tools. Today. Not tomorrow, not a month from now, and absolutely not an entire YEAR from now.

   Push clips management tools up to Q4, or Q1 at best. Put it at the top of the list.

   With that said, DMCA notifications + review + strike tracking also should not take until Q2. That should also be pushed to Q4/Q1.
   These are tools we need now. They are extremely important and pushing them back that far makes it seem like Twitch has no idea what's going on with their creators and what they want or need.

   The tools that are being put above the above mentioned that need priority are not even close in their urgency.
   Granted, you have the things people want on the roadmap, and that is good, but the order of it is ridiculous. It needs complete restructuring.

   tldr;
   -Sort & Delete Clips by date, game, or view count (I would add "created by" and " timestamp range BTW because that would help a ton) should be Q4 2020 or Q1 2021. Not Q4 2021. Giving editors clip access does almost nothing if they have no tools.

   -Multitrack does not need priority over the clip system. At all. Tell people to use OBS if they absolutely need it. There are way more important things to take care of.

   -Vod management is currently easy and could easily be pushed back because Vods have linear finite growth (60 days) whereas clips are exponential and endless. No idea why this is being prioritized when it's barely a problem by comparison.

   -DMCA tools+notifs need to be Q4 2020/Q1 2021. Not Q2 2021. It's ridiculous this wasn't already on the site already.

   If this restructuring is for some reason unfeasible, I don't know what to say but hire better people or find more help.

   I am extremely confused why "Sort & Delete Clips by date, game, or view count" is being pushed back to Q3/Q4 of 2021. That is an entire year from now and is unacceptable given the recent situation regarding clips being targeted for DMCA because of the system's failures to protect creators.

   Twitch has prioritized VOD management over clips. Let me tell you something, as someone who has used the website for years and is a full time streamer that manages many other stream channels big and small: VOD management is NOT what people need more tools for at this time.… more

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8. Make a real commitment to protect streamers acting in good faith

   Will you, right now in public, make a commitment to protect streamers who are acting in good faith who get hit with DMCA notices?

   Look at Github and what they committed to within a very short time after youtube-dl was taken down earlier this year. They are protecting their creators rather than treating them like criminals. Can Twitch do the same?

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9. Tamper audio not mute

   Instead of removing or replacing the audio entirely to mute, add licensed audio but let us be able to hear the streamers still. Add a twitch produced sound over the copyrighted audio rather than muting, and let the streamer still be able to be heard entirely

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10. My ideas for DMCA

    Here's a bunch of ideas of mine that should work if taken into consideration.

    As for when I was back on YouTube Gaming , YouTube would block the stream temporarily while copyrighted music is playing that didn't allow revenue ( adrev ) to be given to the holder - no strike is given unless it is video related like a movie/tv show.

    Example of money going to copyright holder on YouTube ( doesn't get blocked from a vod ) - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/474829729128513536/776142264358535188/unknown.png

    Blocked music ( this would be completely blocked from the stream ) -
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/474829729128513536/776142610455855146/unknown.png

    When it might get blocked if you continue the song :
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/474829729128513536/776143537594564638/Maybe_Blocked.png

    When your stream does get blocked :
    normally just shows like a little symbol saying. Hey this stream has been temporarily blocked due to copyright concerns, then after about 30 seconds the stream comes back after it finds out if the song holder can get ad revenue.

    As for Facebook Gaming as of recently allowing multiple big companies licensing there is a little warning on the dashboard when you can't play curtain song but no strike is given. They teamed up with multiple big companies like Sony Warner and some bigger companies

    More details on that : https://www.facebook.com/fbgaminghome/blog/making-music-and-streaming-easier

    ( not gonna lie if Facebook can do it Twitch can do it better )

    I also personally feel a secondary Audio channel would help streamers as well , as long as it doesn't go into the actual VOD of the livestream sorta like how twitch soundtrack works. ( would be great especially on games that require the songs to play sorta like beat saber , just dance ext. - since that game has a lot of copyright ) - Two volume controllers since you never know how loud things will be.

    Spotify Integration? Make it so your audience can connect their Twitch up to Spotify sorta like how Discord has theirs. ( maybe even build it into the app )

    Any vods/clips before October 23rd 2020 ( since this is when normal DMCA takedowns started to happen ) this should be allowed to be removed without strikes since you guys said you would without any issues.

    One of my friends recently got a strike from a clip from 3 years ago even though this tweet happened saying - First, we will begin the work to extend our use of Audible Magic to identify existing clips that may contain copyrighted music and delete them for you without penalty. Over the coming months, this will cover newly created clips as well.

    OG Tweet : https://twitter.com/TwitchSupport/status/1270875683787624449?s=20

    Here's a bunch of ideas of mine that should work if taken into consideration.

    As for when I was back on YouTube Gaming , YouTube would block the stream temporarily while copyrighted music is playing that didn't allow revenue ( adrev ) to be given to the holder - no strike is given unless it is video related like a movie/tv show.

    Example of money going to copyright holder on YouTube ( doesn't get blocked from a vod ) - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/474829729128513536/776142264358535188/unknown.png

    Blocked music ( this would be completely blocked from the stream ) -
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/474829729128513536/776142610455855146/unknown.png

    When it might get blocked… more

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11. removal of dmca/copy right rule breakers

    Any streamer on a look see streaming copy righted material should be struck from the site period. They tend to be partners or affiliates thus making a mockery of that status. Folks are out here doing some amazing things that take time to grow and these streamers are getting subs and donations off the back of copy righted material. It is not ethical and should be dealt with harshly.
    At this point no one can claim ignorance of dmca rules and copy right obligations it is simple as that.
    When twitch gets sued by warner bros and the whole thing gets shut down then what? it is a matter of law not feelings

    Any streamer on a look see streaming copy righted material should be struck from the site period. They tend to be partners or affiliates thus making a mockery of that status. Folks are out here doing some amazing things that take time to grow and these streamers are getting subs and donations off the back of copy righted material. It is not ethical and should be dealt with harshly.
    At this point no one can claim ignorance of dmca rules and copy right obligations it is simple as that.
    When twitch gets sued by warner bros and the whole thing… more

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12. Twitch shouldn't wait for copyright holders to act

    Copyright violators are running rampant on Twitch right now and for the long term good of the site and the people who make a living off of it, users should be able to report suspected copyright violations and Twitch should investigate and take action if it finds that the streamer is using someone else's content.

    Twitch needs to get ahead of this wave of bad behaviour before powerful corporate entities or politicians force Twitch to take action that harms everyone.

    I'd also recommend implemented a YouTube like 3 strike copyright violations system for egregious repeat offenders.

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13. Freedom of expression and individuality

    Content creators need a way to express how they feel in any way. The First Amendment guarantees our right to free expression and free association, which means that the government laws does not have the right to forbid us from saying what we like and writing what we like; we can form clubs and organizations, and take part in demonstrations and rallies. Although this would be a legal act if anyone infringed on copyright rules. The whole idea of punishing people for expression is non sense. DMCA needs to re-evaluate it's core fundamentals which should be to help everyone.

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14. Clarity regarding public domain in different countries

    With the new year a number of works have now entered the public domain. A given channel's audience may be global and so these works will not enter the public domain uniformly. Presently the existing guidelines specify that the broadcaster must have the rights, but there is an important distinction between the rights within their own country or for all countries the broadcast may reach (in effect, the longest duration across all countries). If the rights apply to individuals who may be viewing, then it would be preferable to be able to restrict the broadcast to certain regions so that they operate under the laws of their own country (e.g. Broadcasters in France should be able to broadcast French works in the public domain and not need to wait for the work to enter the public domain in the United States)

    With the new year a number of works have now entered the public domain. A given channel's audience may be global and so these works will not enter the public domain uniformly. Presently the existing guidelines specify that the broadcaster must have the rights, but there is an important distinction between the rights within their own country or for all countries the broadcast may reach (in effect, the longest duration across all countries). If the rights apply to individuals who may be viewing, then it would be preferable to be able to restrict the broadcast to certain regions so that… more

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15. Negotiate With Game Devs

    So I would 1st like to point out that there's a lot of missing links on the DMCA talk.

    Most of these have to do with the Categories being streamed and what those Categories have Pre-Built in them.

    A fine example of this is with EA and 2K and all the EA and 2K Sports Games.

    These games contain 1 Major Flaw that will impact the DMCA and that is the Game Soundtrack Music.

    For many years the In-Game Music in the Sports Games are all gonna be DMCA Hits as the music is picked by the Athlete(s) on the Cover Art to the Game(s).

    If I was to look at an EA Sports Game and I see the Soundtrack has some of my favourite artists in it. I'm gonna be unhappy because I'll have to disable that In-Game Music.

    Now think if it's the Athlete(s) who picked the music to be in the game and they chose to become a streamer on Twitch. They're gonna be unhappy and say "I picked this music to be in the game and because of DMCA I can't even listen to my jams?" Now you've lost another Content Creator.

    You see this a lot with the UFC and the Impact Wrestling Channels on Twitch. All the fighters have their own Entrance Music they walk out to before they fight. This is Technically a Copyright on it's own as the entrance music picked by the fighter was Licensed to the Broadcasts Or Game(s) so the fighter can hype up the crowd.

    Now take that into a Perspective as a Content Creator who's big into watching the Combat Sports. They've acquired the game and have chosen to start a Content Series where they're gonna make their own custom character and go down a career path in the game to achieve a goal.
    The creator may be facing an AI Character for the other Fighter. But the same time, these other fighter(s) have the same music they enter to on the Broadcast put into the game.
    Now the Creator's in a bit of a pickle. They're not supposed to be playing Copyright Music on their stream. But at the same time, it's unskippable as it's part of a cutscene in that game and therefore they're hit with a DMCA notice. What's going to happen to this Creator now that they've been going for over <Time Span> with the game and then they are hit with a DMCA because the game did it to them?

    This needs to be brought to the attention of the Game Devs even more than Creators. If the game Devs are putting the music into the Game(s) and the Creator(s) are the ones being punished because of the music. Then this needs an appeal to ensure all creators are secured and have the freedom of the In-Game Music on their content.

    This still doesn't even hit how much harder it is for the Rhythm Game Creators.

    Heck! Even Creators who do Art always have music playing on their stream. I personally enjoy the Music while I'm doing art as It's a form of Inspiration to something I may create live on stream.

    Prime example of myself using music with what may include DMCA Music. I'm a Multimedia Artist who does Film and Photography along with Video Editing and Graphical Arts. On Saturday 09/18/2021, I went out to a bar for the 1st time in a long time to see some Live music that my friends were performing. My friends are part of an 80's Hair Metal Tribute Band. So every song would technically be a DMCA hit on my end. But the issue of this part is that I was the person behind the camera filming a subject. I then took this subject and started to Edit the video and add in graphics and remix the Audio Levels. Just by me doing this is a DMCA? That doesn't seem fair as it's a form of inspiration to a Work of Art I'm working on at that time.

    I personally was on a Long Twitter Thread earlier on 09/28/2021 where multiple Content Creators I stream with said "I really wish I could play <Game Title> on Stream. But at least 1/2 of the music in the game would give me a DMCA.

    So I would 1st like to point out that there's a lot of missing links on the DMCA talk.

    Most of these have to do with the Categories being streamed and what those Categories have Pre-Built in them.

    A fine example of this is with EA and 2K and all the EA and 2K Sports Games.

    These games contain 1 Major Flaw that will impact the DMCA and that is the Game Soundtrack Music.

    For many years the In-Game Music in the Sports Games are all gonna be DMCA Hits as the music is picked by the Athlete(s) on the… more

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16. will you give us options to choose songs/make playlists in twitch sounds?
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17. Don't bleach copyrights

    Companies cannot gain trust if they do not comply with laws and ethics. Some streamers watched anime in their stream without getting permission. That is completely illegal.
    The streamers sometimes choose particular words for their streams tag for avoiding a ban. So Twitch had better improve AI which scanning streams or give punishment to particular streamers for not obeying the copyright law.

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18. ASCAP/BMI/SESAC/PRS/CISAC/APRA-AMCOS Reporting Feature

    It strikes (pun not intended) me that there should be a way to provision a means to report plays/performances (and recordings via VODs) of third party music on stream for the purposes of avoiding DMCA strikes.

    Streamers who are already in the music industry are highly likely to be affiliated with one or more reporting agencies in their regions, and most such agencies collect fees on behalf of overseas partners. In this day and age of service integration and automation, it seems logical that there should be a means to compile a post-stream report for an affiliated agency and submit it for monthly reporting and billing. And for non-affiliates, a simple payment gateway that tallies up the costs associated with a report should also be possible. Appropriate reporting/payments should then be able to exempt a given streamer from the scan-bots that are used by the relevant agencies and labels via a simple report that Twitch can pass on to a basic web service.

    Many of these agencies are starting to implement stream licensing models for down-market (read: smaller, electronically streamed) content producers. If Twitch were to approach these agencies with a pitch that they could either contribute to the development of reporting features or stop harassing your customers, it's quite likely they might come to the table.

    There are third party tools that could be used to assist with this kind of reporting, and could be recruited to share in the integration and development costs - such as Spotify/YouTube/SonglistBot, etc... which could all include a stream reporting mode which generates a list of content played on stream for submission. Reading the streamer's VOD setting would be a simple mechanism for whether to submit for performance/play rights reporting only, or for mechanical copyright reporting as well.

    Please consider - the DMCA stuff is as much of a pain for you folks as the publishing platform provider as it is for streamers, and this is a mechanism that lets everyone be a winner.

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    Jemma (StoryGirl)

    It strikes (pun not intended) me that there should be a way to provision a means to report plays/performances (and recordings via VODs) of third party music on stream for the purposes of avoiding DMCA strikes.

    Streamers who are already in the music industry are highly likely to be affiliated with one or more reporting agencies in their regions, and most such agencies collect fees on behalf of overseas partners. In this day and age of service integration and automation, it seems logical that there should be a means to compile a post-stream report for an affiliated agency and submit… more

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19. the appeal is not allowing me to submit once completed. the submit button is grayed out and back icon only option

    create a page to submit proof that I have purchased a license to stream any video and audio on twitch or other platform. our organization purchases a yearly license to stream video and audio during religious services.

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20. DMCA risky game list

    Put together a comprehensive list of games that could put streamers at risk of DMCA. Similar to how there is a banned list of games not allowed to play on Twitch (outdated). This DMCA list would need to be updated frequently.

    Maybe also with a description of what could cause a strike in the game. Would allow for at risk games to still be streamed and promoted, but would allow streamers to be more prepared to mute if necessary.

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