Make all AI features optional, and opt-out by default.
For any features on Twitch which use AI, allow all creators to opt in or opt out of them individually, and set the default to Opt Out for all new AI features. We as creators should have the choice whether to use AI or not on our channels. If we do not want to use it at all, it's important for us to be able to have that choice, AND for us not to be opted in by default.
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MiaTheDragonfruitDerg
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make it optional and Opt-Out by default, AI for stuff like this shouldn't exist, as a newer streamer im more foucsed on other things and i dont want to deal with Ai on top of everything else
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CrowBirdCannon
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I asked Dan Clancy about Twitch training AI models on our content specifically during Twitchcon last year, and I was told directly that Twitch would do no such thing. I was lied to. **** AI, **** Twitch.
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UnderTheRingPod
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It's ridiculous, but what else do we expect from Twitch? The fact that we're automatically opted in, and can't even fully opt out even when we turn the function off, as stated, is disgusting. They either expect the majority to not even know it's happening, or hoping we don't care.
I'm tired of AI being forced into every aspect of life. Glad to see so many people feel the same way.
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DJsSLEFunhouse
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This should be default for all companies and applications. I do not wish for my work to be used to make a fake me Twitch will monetize.
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DMS104
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This goes for all companies... do not expect your users to accept the use of AI with open arms— even more when it comes to generative AI. Most people do not want these features. It is especially disappointing to see generative AI features being implemented on content-sharing sites (YouTube, TikTok, etc.), as it defeats the entire purpose of expressing one's creativity, talent, and genuine hard work and dedication in their content. If companies truly cared about the user experience, they would listen to the feedback and remove these features... or at minimum, make them opt-out by default. It is highly unethical to train your AI models on creators' content and make it opt-in by default without any warning.
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a_bat
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Very disappointing to see how tone deaf Twitch is by enabling Generative AI by default. Creators should not be opted-in by default to build these models, especially unknowingly. I received no notice this was coming except from third-party sources. This feels especially bad that there was no announcement and felt like it was forced in under the radar.
There's been many complaints for several years over the ethics of GenerativeAI and how it steals from creatives and derives them of opportunities and work. Not to mention the concerns on how this negatively impacts the environment and economy in varying degrees. For a website centered around creators, this feels like a complete slap in the face.
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AwesomeFox42
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What I haven't seen addressed yet is the line " If you chat on someone else's stream, their opt-out preferences govern if that chat can be used for training.". Does this count for emotes? If so, what does it mean if a subscriber of X channel, who has opted-out, uses that emote in the chat of Y, who has opted-in?
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Tyrak
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I'm sure Twitch won't read this, but this is for everyone else.
For anyone who isn't aware, it's VERY clear why Twitch is doing this. GenAI "streamers" already exist on the platform - just Vtubers with a glorified chatbot behind the wheel. The tech is there, it's just bad. Amazon very, very clearly wants to make it into something unstoppable.
And why wouldn't they, financially? Like any platform that is based on content creators, gig workers, etc., Amazon doesn't see Twitch streamers as its heart and soul, or the whole reason it even exists. It sees streamers as its biggest "expense". Messed up, but true.
But if they can make GenAI "streamers", in-house? It's a gold mine. They don't eat, they don't sleep, they don't disagree, they don't protest, they don't sign petitions or complain in threads like this one, they don't break community guidelines, they don't ever take a break, they don't ever say no, and they don't get paid. They just work 24/7 and do whatever you tell them.
Twitch very clearly wants to make that the norm. The problem: They suck! They don't actually work, they don't feel human, and they never bloody will. But try telling these morons that and you'll be talking all day.
I'm mad, and you should be too. If they don't see serious pushback from this, Twitch is gonna look REAL different in 5 years, and nobody's gonna be happy except Dan Clancy and every other soulless bloodsucker in a suit.
Shove off.
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astaryss
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This is disgusting. Clearly planning on profiting by the thousands of people who may not pay attention and leave this **** active. I hate that it exists, but you can at least have the common decency to allow opt-in instead of opt-out!
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WigsZone
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AI should not used at all, but if it is, it needs to be opt-out as the default. Period. Sleazy, scummy move to do otherwise. Twitch is contributing to the rapid destruction of our environment.
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apropoetic
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Of all of Twitch's many and ongoing betrayals of the users of their platform, the people who keep it going, this is among the biggest. There is such a lack of transparency and concern for the streamers and viewers the platform is built on that has been happening since Twitch's creation and continuing under Dan Clancy's massively disappointing reign as CEO. Not only should this garbage pushing of Gen AI not be a thing but you should have to opt in by choice, not be opted in by default and both streamers and viewers should have control over what and how their content and messages are used.
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CellyCharms
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I worked for years to reach Partner status on your platform and I want to say that this move - adding this feature in the dead of night with no notice despite over ten thousand active voices pleading with you not to - has damaged the community's trust in you significantly. It is clear you are not listening to any of us. You have opened the door for an alternative platform to rise up and win content creators over, which harms us all - fewer streamers on Twitch damages all of our livelihoods. This is a braindead and tone-deaf move.
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Mojo_JoJoke
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Greedy ***** just put this on by default. Because of course they did. Good to know that 13,000 users unanimously saying "no" to this will only result in a spit in our faces.
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AzzyDerg
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Adding this nonsense at all is disgusting. Making it opt-in by default is absolutely abhorrent.
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Leshoyadut
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Genuinely the worst decision I've ever seen Twitch make, and that's a high bar to clear. Generative AI is destroying our environment, destroying communities, stealing work by actual people for soulless recreations and plagiarism, and actively hurts the ability to think for those who use it. There is no part of generative AI that is beneficial to any of us; it's even consistently getting more expensive than just paying people for the same work (that they then do better than the AI does). It shouldn't even be a part of the site in any form, but if you for some reason decide to keep it, then it should at least be opt-in instead of opt-out. We should also be able to decline *any and all* parts of it, not just some of it, both as a viewer and as a streamer. If I don't want my chats included in AI scraping as a chatter, I shouldn't have to trust that a streamer has turned it off on their channel beforehand. I don't even care if that's not practical to make that kind of change, I shouldn't be forced to contribute like that.
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RatOrbit
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TWITCH WE DO NOT WANT OUR CHANNELS TO BE USED FOR YOUR STUPID GEN AI!! Yet alone be opted in by default?? That's so scummy!!
They have never listened to these user voice things. They didn't listen when we didn't was AI generated Category covers. It's so apparent that they're just another big greedy corpo trying to exploit everything and everyone they can for a little bit of cash. :( -
dolastorheavenlivestream
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Your site will be dead in 2 years if you earnestly believe 90% of your creators that generate your revenue support your vision of generative AI
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Momoplush
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With how rampant AI implemented tools are rising, I believe it is in everyone's interest to have the option to decide if they want to partake in this art/work be used by any entity. Many of us do not like or wish to have AI in anything that they do, myself included. for a platform that states that they celebrate us and our creativity, removing the in-between process that brings satisfaction once we reach the end goal is very disingenuous.
In addition, if our communities do not support this and stop supporting the site it further hinders us if streaming is our income, which ultimately hinders you too. No one is winning here.
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thepasteldyke
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This is such a ****** move. Let people opt out FULLY, make it so you're not opted in by default. Gross.
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tealfruit
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honestly I'd prefer if they just didn't train AI on us At All. but if it's gonna be there regardless, at least make it a conscious decision. if twitch is using OUR content, WE should get to volunteer it TO them, not have it taken without permission!