IP Ban from channel
IP Ban makes it possible to permanently ban a user with the same IP Address, thus not allowing them to crate other account to try and troll/spam, etc.
We apply IP bans in Chat based on users’ Moderation actions in certain cases. We don’t currently plan to publicize the logic we use because we think it would make it easier for bad actors to bypass the restriction.
I agree as i got banned from a mod likely. For doing nothing other then supporting a streamer which was getting trolled.
Sure i made a few multiple posts. But for crying out loud. A mod should have better reasons to ban someone then supporting the streamer.
This streamer furthermore hardly ever bans anyone. So really there needs to be something in place. So mods themselves don't abuse the system.
I am attempting to contact the streamer to inform them of the situation. As i don't think they were even aware of it.
I highly recommend consideration of this feature. It's too easy (and I just experienced it 5 minutes ago), where a single troll uses a series of (obviously scripted) accounts to non-stop spam a stream. Account bans were completely un-helpful.
If some sort of command like /ipban was exposed, that did NOT expose the actual IP to the mod/streamer, it would allow a per-stream safe ip-ban capability.
Then you could either leave it to the stream to re-allow, or implement an automatic time-out of the ban, or both.
If the Twitch devs won't implement this feature because banning IP addresses is hard, then I have a different solution. Instead of playing whack-a-mole by banning specific IP addresses, just ban ALL users that match a certain criteria that doesn't depend on IP address. See proposal here https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/310201-chat-messaging/suggestions/10151265-give-channels-the-ability-to-ban-all-recently-crea
Uh, I forgot to add my reasoning to my last comment. I wanted to add that, although a temporary ban wouldn't stop a troll completely, it could be used to make it significantly harder for them to troll, at the cost of a slight(?) inconvenience to non-troll users at a certain IP address.
Rather than permanently banning an IP address from using chat, whispering people, and creating new accounts, how about using a *temporary* ban, such as a day? Anyone trying to sign up for a new account at the banned IP address would see a message displayed that goes something along the lines of
> This IP address is blocked from creating new accounts for the next X hours due to recent abuse.
Stack Exchange frequently uses rate-limiting of various activities from certain IP addresses and users,
and those are only *a few* of the posts their about it.
Looks like this is basically the same request as https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/310201-chat-messaging/suggestions/7956255-ip-ban-from-channel.
If someone with different accounts keep coming into chat, that's ban evading. Report each account as they come in and the admins will catch on quick, probably global banning them and their IP.
I'm not on staff so I'm not 100% on this, if Xangold could confirm/deny.
With great power comes great responsibility! It's too risky, while it may help in some cases, it's way too risky and there is no real safe way of doing this. That power should stay with Admins, Global Moderators, and staff members ONLY! Because let's say you say something that a streamer doesn't like. Let's say you simply make a comment that's completely harmless, but the streamer doesn't like it and then BOOM your IP banned. That's not something that should happen. Let the people that Twitch trusts with their lives handle that one
@Anonymous below: That only changes your internal IP if you are behind a router/modem. Your external IP will not change, and even then most Internet Service Providers will keep your IP cached for a week or so. If you "renew" within that period, you will get your old IP back.
One of my cooler comments got deleted. -_- Let's give it another shot. *activates reddiquette*
Yeah, so. Here's how you change your IP.
open command prompt (cmd.exe)
you will see your IP and other crap
go /ipconfig release
restart computer, wait a little while (exactly 1 little while, no more, no less)
boom. IP changed. wb
That wont stop the trolls, they can always reset the modem to get a new IP or enter the site using proxy.
The question then becomes, why & how does htbx have the IPs of all logged in chatters, whilst Twitch, perhaps, does not? It'd seem they don't even know a streamer's IP unless u hand it over to them. Source: once got a channel ban, contested it, gave them my IP only to receive IP ban, lol. Neat trick
Breh. (or sis, Keepo) htbx already has this
Streamers should be allowed to IP ban a user from their channel. This will prevent people from making Multiple accounts just to troll and harass people. I know about the Verify email to speak option but that isn't stopping people. /ipban Usuername
we need a ban ip atleast to ban them from chats
THE No.1 Alex, this would be a bad idea as this means that the front end system can access IP's people will firgure out how to use this for bad things no sense in giving people a chance at that.
Make it a 24-hour IP ban then, just on chatting, with a separate command from the standard /ban or /timeout (no need to punish housemates if someone needs a short-term sit-down). While this won't stop a determined troll, it could at least mitigate waves and make it slightly more inconvenient to subvert, especially if free proxies are added to a global permanent IP ban list.
Russell Richardson commented
"2) System load. Looking up a enormous list of IPs to see who is allowed to watch on every single video play is an enormous system load I’m not sure we’re willing to take on."
I don't think the intention is to ban them from watching, just chatting. Currently, banning a user still allows them to watch.
While IPs change, this would make a vicious troll's job relatively more difficult to come back. Perhaps only allow this with the requirement that a report be submitted as well, with the threat of this function being removed for users who abuse this.
"IPs change. A lot. A broadcaster might lose a significant portion of their audience, and viewers might get confused if there are a lot of banned IPs (such as universities)."
There could be an automatized system were users are un IP banned from the channel after a certain amount of days/week/hours/months.