Kick unwanted users/bots from Channel COMPLETELY!
We are now dealing with a new threat of bot accounts. These accounts sit lurking in channel, possibly logging info of either streamers or chatters. They may be using this info for giveaway sniping, or possible future bot attacks, including viewer bots, follower bots, and even spam bots. They sit there and do nothing, they follow us to other streams we host/raid. We ban them, not like they ever say anything, but to prevent them from spreading, we need a way to KICK THEM OFF THE CHANNEL.
Recently had a run in with "Opentwitchbot" whom acknowledges that they are running a bot in other's channels, but never requested permission to do so, instead, they want us to run THEIR command in our channels to make them leave, which isn't possible on our bots, because our bots are not design for that command, nor is it a Twitch command. I don't know what their command is doing, and I certainly don't trust it. When confronting them on the fact that their bot is breaking ToS, they reported me for reporting them. I requested and stated to them several times, their bot is not welcomed in my channel, and they refused to remove themselves until the end of my stream, waiting for me to host someone and latch on to them, thus spreading.
We've all been noticing another set of bots possibly working together, Faegwent ThisIsMyDevAccount and chatdb, they never speak, but they have hundreds if not thousands of followers, they never broadcast, etc etc, what are they doing sitting in our chat? sending info to these followers? that's against ToS. We the broadcasters need an option to kick them from the page, doesn't have to be permanent, they might have an option to hop back on, but I think we should have some sort of captcha security so they can PROVE they are human, and not a bot when rejoining the page!
Banning doesn't do enough if they can still read the chat and gather the info. Reporting seems to do nothing for the past 2 months of reporting them, from MULTIPLE witnesses/reporters. It's about time we have some control over the unwelcome bot accounts.
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A Hard Working Broadcaster, just trying to stop the spread of unwanted guests.
Hi, I know that this is a very late response, but we’re hoping to find time to address this issue later this year. There are a few steps we’ll have to take to solve this problem in a way that will work for all streamers, but we understand the severity of the issue.
As a very new streamer on Twitch I get very few viewers - currently peaking at 5 or 6 most streams - but even to me, a mere layman compared to most, I can see that there are a lot of bot's exploding into Twitch channels. I however am not a NOOB when it comes to internet security, I know that these bots are very capable of applying some very nasty and potentially malicious code. The ability of a bot is way beyond most peoples imagination. IP address, browser tracking, banking records, anything and everything you do online is open to abuse from these bot's.
I ask you @Twitch.tv how do you propose to protect us from this threat, a very clear and present danger to not only your 'bread winning' streamers/content creators, but also to all of their viewers.
THIS MUST END!!!
I want uninvited bot's out of my chat A.S.A.P!
are all sitting in my chat and there is nothing I can do. This is absolutely frustrating and takes away from my ability to connect with the small amount of people that ACTUALLY come to my channel. Skinnyseahorses' channel bio is a straight up troll saying how he is doing nothing wrong and that there is nothing you can do about it.
Something has to change.
And the abuse goes on & on.
"ogqp" a botviewer AND supporting 2007 school massacre Finland via bio & avatar. !!!
"teyd__" yet another bot without any clear purpose information given.
Twitch does nothing... Simple proper morals are not for winners by any means apparently.
Please i find them everywhere and they cause more harm then good
Exactly @Ay Jay. I have been requesting this for years now. While it won't stop trolls from finding ways to harass the stream, it will make it much much more difficult.
In addition to this, the whisper system needs to be tied into bans. It should at least warn a user that the whisper they are receiving, comes from a user who is banned in a channel that they follow. Even better is if the streamer can customize the warning message. For example: "This user was banned from darthclide's stream for non stop verbal abuse and doxxing" or "This user was banned from darthclide's stream for racial slurs".
Ay Jay commented
Absolutely need to be able to ban this junk. Ban should mean "prevent from joining" not "prevent from talking".
Off-Topic, kind of...
We need to have the ability to show reply to specific posts. Entirely too many opportunities for people to take sht out of context. lol
I feel you need to re-read @Evelyn McKnight's post/request. Or was this just your way of promoting your bot?? I'm confused why you would respond that way.
Anyway, you are correct @Evelyn McNight. We should have the ability, as streamers, to remove ANY viewer. Any viewer, regardless it's purpose on our channel.
Ok, I'll be nicer. "Bot A" would reference chat/stream bots that you have to authorize to work in moderation with the stream. "Bot B" would reference what I believe @Evelyn McKnight is referring to as a lurking bot that just sits there collecting stream/chat data, and no other purpose. IMHO
Aiden Wallis commented
Wait, seriously? Okay, some of you REALLY don't know what these bots are or even how to compile lists.
I'm the owner of Fossabot, it is an OPT IN moderation bot service, you can't kick a bot that the streamer PHYSICALLY AUTHORISES AND GIVES MOD. Jeeeesus.
It's not a stalker bot, you can add it at fossabot.com - it's essentially similar to other bots like Nightbot, it is literally designed from the ground up to only join the channels that it is authorised to join. If the bot is in your channel... IT'S BECAUSE YOU ADDED IT.
Every week there's more of these damn bots, twitch is getting overrun with them and the twitch admins don't give a flying crap.
@Monkey As has been said before, this isn't just for the bots / data miners. It's also for the ability to keep unwanted people from being able to access channels. Unlike how banning them will still let them sit there, watch the stream only unable to chat. We want to be able to cut them off completely.
there is one mistake in here:
u can gather chat info even without any account. so u will not be able to ban these info-gatheres anyway because the info they are crawling is public anyway. apart from that, i understand your argument, but i am sorry, as said, that info is public anyway.
to: "n3td3v commented · September 16, 2018 2:08 PM
@Evelyn McKnight Your post from 091118 erroneously lists me (n3td3v) as a bot which I am by no means. I am not only a streamer supporter & promoter, but I am also a Twitch content creator much like yourself, and correct me if I am wrong here, but I do not believe I have ever been to your channel so therefore it would be wrong to lump sum me along with several others on your list as 'bots'. I only actively lurk the channels of my subscribers and other small streamers that have asked me for help in growing their channels because I SUPPORT ALL STREAMERS that want/need it. Also, I have personally talked to CommanderRoot on many occasion and I can testify that he is also not a bot, but actually Twitch staff."
I never stated you were in my channel, but I've seen in channels I moderate for, and I've gone through the list of all the people listed, and review behaviour, I had put you on the list because you were showing very similar signs of bot like behaviors, never stating anything and were amongst many of the bot channels. as for commander root, as I stated, states that he does lurk in many channels, has admitted to making a bot, other's confirm his bot, (I couldn't find the command to remove said bot from his channel or was it the one that was too long and assinine to use? like a big fuck you to your face if you ask me), and states that he doesn't record or even watch the streams, so it's not actually helping anyone, so why is he there really? This was a question I asked, and now being told he's twitch staff just makes it even a bigger Fuck you to our faces because they are basically running twitch like they are above their own rules. The rules are there for all to follow equally if the rules aren't followed, why even have them?! Are they not there to actually protect us, to help us? really, it's just... arrogant, and disgusting, I see he's a partner on twitch, nowhere did I see the twitch wrench or staff symbol by his name, but to allow that to continue to go on while we're are stating that we have a problem with this sort of behaviour? How are we not suppose to be pissed off by such actions?
If someone is a real person in my channel, I have no problem with them lurking, but it's getting harder and harder to tell who is and isn't real anymore because of this bullshit going on. Just a few weeks ago, even twitch staff accounts were compromised by bots, and they still haven't given us any options to protect our streams, the streams we moderate for, nor give any indication that viewers that add to reports is getting anything done. so excuse me if this bot situation is literally plaguing Twitch right now, and you might have gotten caught in the net by accident.
I have friends that use Chatty to lurk and help record chat logs for moderating purposes for our own channels (to prevent trolls from spreading their hate, etc etc), but they don't normally spend time in more than 60 channels, Chatty has a bit of a memory leak, and they still show up in those channels as a regular viewer, watch, comment, interact, sometimes lurk while they are off at work and what not. but these bots we see in more than 100's of channels at once, that's someone using a server or something much smoother than a typical home computer to be in all those channels at once. it's not often to find people that can lurk in so many channels due to internet limitations, or computer limitations etc. so that's probably the most likely red flag I saw from your username, and what many other's had seen, I'm not the only one that listed you if I recall, which is why I looked into it before making that list.
It's been a while, and searching these comments takes a little more time than I have today to do. I don't have time to recheck said list today to update for other's convenience right now. but we shouldn't be needing a list when all we're asking for is a simple kick option. but it's what we have to work with for right now.
@averageBot, it's amazing that someone doesn't fully read everything that's stated all through the comments, especially when mentioned that people have better things to do with their life, like actually LIVING THEIR LIFE outside of the internets, than needing to monitor something 24/7 on something that should be common sense, when the ToS clearly states that these are people breaking rules, but no one is doing anything about it... nice try shaming someone trying to do right for a community of hard-working streamers. Now buzz off, and let the real people make their statements.
My favorite part of this is when people who aren't bots responded and the creator still puts them as bots. Awkward moment when your post was proven a myth.
Sickfold also one
Mark Allan Lang commented
personally most I dont have the problem with bots that tell you how to get rid of them but the ones that just sit with 0 information on them sure right totally legit I just hope some of the Twitchpartners actually gonna go and complain to twitch about those bots so that Twitch thinks ok now we could do something....
I will be addressing this in person at Twitch Con. I hope having a person in front of them might make some kind of impact. It would be a bigger impact if many people approached them at TC this year about this bot business.