The point multipliers have recently changed so that it is fairer that if you are paying for a higher tier sub, you receive a higher multiplier. Unfortunately, as opposed to increasing the multiplier for higher-tiered, lower tiers had their multipliers drastically lowered to the point of not really being that different from a non-subscriber. Idk how it may look from the pov of Twitch Staff, but from a user, getting 12 points for passive watch time and 60 points for an active watch time bonus while a non-subscriber gets 10 and 50 points respectively just doesn't seem that fair. When the higher-tiered subs came out, it was initially designed for users who wanted to support streamers at a higher level (and as such a higher percentage of the subscription price would go to the streamer), but it has since been made fairer so that they actually are getting more for their money's worth, which was not the original intention of the higher tiers, but I understand it. Support your streamer more and get more from it at the same time.

I understand why it's plausible to give higher-tiered subs a higher point multiplier but I can't fathom why Twitch would need to take away from regular tier-1 subs in the process. As a subscriber, we are quite literally paying infinitely more than someone who isn't subscribed at all (unless they were gifted). While it makes sense for a higher-tiered sub to have a higher multiplier, it doesn't make sense for the multiplier of a subscriber (formerly 2x, now 1.2x) to be almost identical to someone who isn't subscribed at all (1x). The difference is negligible, and because of that, I'm humbly requesting that the tier-1 multiplier be restored to 2x and if Twitch wants to, they can make a higher multiplier for higher-tiered subs.

For variety streamers, it would be wonderful to be able to put certain channel point rewards into folders that can be turned on and off with the flip of a switch.

For example, I could put all my "Fallguys" rewards into a "Fallguys" folder. Then the entire folder could be turned on. When I play a different game, I could turn the folder off.

With the current system, we have to go through a huge list of rewards turning each individual reward on and off when switching games. The end result is that many streamers just have rewards that don't always make sense, depending on what they're doing that day.

Greetings.

My friend runs a very low-tier channel on twitch, and I'm the horrible computer janitor saddled with coding his insane demands. One of the rewards he offers is for people to become a "king of the stream". This doesn't do anything besides play a special sound, it's just a fun thing people can spend their points on.

Of course, we all know the internet; the more meaningless something is, the more people want it. Often, this reward is sniped while my friend is still getting set up and people are filing in. This kinda ruins it for everyone else because it's a "once per stream" redemption that's usually redeemed before the audience at large can file in.

It would be nice if there was a feature for point rewards to only be redeemed after a set amount of time after the stream starts, or a random delay.

Thank you.

Prior to channel points being a Twitch feature, many streamers decided to use their streaming provider to create a point system and create another source of entertainment on streams. I know that with Streamlabs points you can gamble your points which provides yet another way to entertain yourself on stream. In some streams you could actually type !gamble in chat and streamelements would then reply with a successful or failed gamble doubling or claiming the point amount you gambled, but this may not be viable because it could really clog up chat. I do wish however that there were some gambling games that streamers could enable that would allow us to gamble our points balance. With streamlabs points also, we got points for every gift sub and for a certain amount donated in bits. I like that we now receive points for a monthly donation of bits and gift subs, but it's a lot harder to get points because these are only once a month things and we cannot get more points regardless of how much we donate. It also doesn't help that the multiplier was recently reduced to almost nothing for tier-1 subs.

Moderators have access to view the reward requests view of the twitch streams they moderate for and accept or reject the reward redemption. Can broadcaster have more control over this capability?

While it is awesome our mods have the ability to do this, some moderators may exploit the ability to approve and reject requests, while rejection means the channel points go back to the person. For custom rewards this means they can keep accumulating points and redeeming them on custom rewards and then rejecting and giving themselves the points back.

As broadcasters, we do not have the ability to see what our moderators have approved/rejected in the rewards queue. While this is great, broadcasters have no idea what was approved or denied/given back in points and what moderators are accessing when. This means, moderators may be approving or crediting the channel points they redeem back to themselves, or wiping queues before the streamer has a chance to action anything (like gifting subs).

Yes we should entrust our mods to do the right thing, but the principle is for rewards (which could come with out of pocket expenses) broadcasters whould have the ability to make sure moderators are not exploiting.

Can we please have the option to toggle the reward request queue to:
Off - Moderators and Editors do not have access
On - Moderators and Editors have access
Editors - Only editors have access

This would allow broadcasters to have the ability of what mods/editors can do on their channel with rewards.

Note: Having and auditable log would be great too. Being able to see what was redeemed, who cleared the reward and how (accepted/declined).

I will preface this suggestion that I am comparing twitches current channel point system to Streamelements since twitch feels very limiting and we could do so much more with it instead of resorting to a 3rd party to use channel points which makes it inconvenient for viewers. With that being said comments saying just use Streamelements isn't helpful, i'd love everyone's actual thoughts towards this.

Currently Twitch's channel point system feels very limiting overall especially when compared to other channel point systems aka streamelements.

Part 1: Issue with Current Twitch Channel Point Earned System

With its current setup Twitch unfortunately fully controls how many points are collected for different actions and also controls how many points different subscriber levels receive instead of giving that control to the streamer. Which lets all be honest are terrible, the fact that tier 1 which tends to be the large majority of streamer subscriptions only get 1.2x and Tier 3 which is a whopping $24.99 only gets 2x channel points while being 5x more expensive.

Other 3rd party software (streamelements for example) on the other hand gives the streamer full control of how your points can be used and allows the streamer to manually change every value whenever they'd like. Let's be real who wouldn't love the ability to increase channel point during special event streams to promote more follows, subscribers, hosts ect.

Lets Compare:
Watching Stream (10min watched): Twitch - 10 points vs Streamelements - Any
Follow Bonus: Twitch - 300 points vs Streamelements - Any
Hosting: Twitch - None vs Streamelements - Any
Subscribing: Twitch - 500 points (Only Gifting) vs Streamelements - Any
Tips/Bits: Twitch - None vs Streamelements - Any

Are we seeing a trend at this point? Overall the fact that Twitch controls how many points OUR own viewers are receiving and doesn't allow the streamer to control it manually really feels unfair and ends up forcing some of us to go to 3rd parties instead of using the integrated features.

Part 2: Issue with Current Twitch Channel Point Redemption system

This one is a bit shorter and to the point since I've seen people mention similar things but to me it feels like it needs to be included in the same issue overall.

With the current twitch redemption system it feels limiting since we currently can only create channel point redemptions for things the streamer needs to do.

When it comes to the following things:
-Gifs/images popping up on screen
-Sound effects happening
-Ability to use commands to redeem channel points
-Subscriber Only Redemptions
-Ability to use Bits to redeem instead of channel points when you don't have enough.
-Ect.

We are unfortunately forced to use other platforms like Lioran Board, Stream Elements, Triggerfyre, ect to make all these cool unique things happen. It would be so much easier to have all this built into twitch so it can all be integrated together with the channel points instead of resorting to 3rd party software.

I'm curious what else everyone else things and what else could be tied into this idea!!

Thanks for reading through this entire rant! <3<3<3

I'm in the process of developing a game designed to use channel points (CP) as a means for viewers to interact with it. I however have encountered a couple of minor issues that would be detrimental or unintended side effects of the game due to limitations in the channel point system.

Firstly, there is no way to order CP rewards manually. Since the CP rewards are the viewers interface and resulting action, it would be much better to have them ordered by type of action rather then the cost of the action. In addition I wanted to use a "NOTES" reward to give the viewer basic information about the game, but in order to make it appear first I have to make it cheaper then all the other actions, which may result in people wasting there CP on something that doesn't do anything.

Secondly, as implied by the above, CP rewards are the viewers actions in the game, but there is no way to disable the chat message for rewards redemptions, in small to medium channels, this probably isn't going to be too big of an issue, but with the cheapest action currently being 50 points, when you get to 200+ viewers it's going to be a major issue. As such a toggle to not show reward redemption publicly would be nice (the viewer should still see the redemption).