Reruns vs LIVE
Live vs Reruns
i think it should be made cleared when a chanel is on a rerun, it shouldn't say "LIVE"
A way that i think they could help new streamers, or lew viewercount streamers overall is to have two subcategories, Live and Reruns.
this would let streamers that are live have a chance to grow.
on the asmr category it's getting out of hands the amount of reruns, youtubecompilations and bots. and we can't do anything about it too. i've reported multiple channels but they are still there, even getting into front page. it's sad to see how the essence of t
witch is getting lost.
promoting reruns over live channels
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StickyShaman
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Please make prerecorded/reruns against TOS! They go against the purpose of live streaming, which is that it's LIVE.
It's infuriatingly obvious that OF sellers are just view-botting the same recording over and over. Their goal is to rank high and be discovered by a wider audience. It totally detracts from the Twitch experience (and they could care less).
It is insulting to streamers who put real effort into their content.
If a user wants to re-watch a stream, there are VODs. At least with VODs (and the old re-run feature), you can see the chat in real time.
With prerecorded videos you can't see the chat as the streamer interacts. The live chat is almost always empty because most viewers are bots (all several thousand of them).Not only do prerecorded videos not benefit the platform, they arguably detract from the "Live"streaming experience for its users. Maybe the metrics look good because of all the ad watch time the bots give, but the brands that are paying to run ads to bots might beg to differ.
These streamers are lazy, entitled, and selfish.
They are lazy: because their recorded streams are usually low effort, and despite that they still don't stream live.
They are entitled: by taking up space with non-interactive content to promote their own websites.
They are selfish: because they don't care about the effects their greed will have on Twitch's awesome community.Perhaps a blanket ban on prerecorded/reruns would need exceptions. However, we should at least be able to report channels as described above to get them removed faster.
I don't have any issues with "Just Chatting", "ASMR", E-girls, nudity, etc... It's the non-live streams that I really think ruin the experience. If we wanted to watch a prerecorded video we would be on YouTube.
A large part of Twitch is becoming a funnel for young people to discover adult content. This is bad for Twitch, it's users, and society. Banning these reruns would have a large impact on this aspect because many creators are only doing it because it takes zero effort currently.I apologize for my rant. I've had this all bottled up for years now, lmao.
EDIT: oh yah.... If Twitch decides to explicitly allow this type of rerun, it should be given a tag so it can be filtered out. Users who mislabel their reruns as live should be banned.
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egobruiser00
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Could be at least have the user required to disable any type of donation/subscription while they stream a rerun? Maybe leave the follow button active so the viewer can catch them the next time they are live.
It doesn't seem right to have streamers making money while they are just running a rerun. It's almost like "botting" in the games. Many streamers film a week of VODs and then just stream them over and over and make a profit.
There are too many live streamers that could be getting views rather than these botters. How often do you think someone tunes into a rerun stream not knowing it, subscribes only to find out the person isn't actually there?
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AlexWayfer
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> so my question for you is. idk why but when im streaming it says rerun when I'm live how do I change that??
The checkbox under category and tags in Stream Manager…
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cjnewt21
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so my question for you is. idk why but when im streaming it says rerun when I'm live how do I change that??
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rabidshaun
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It is still happening now and much worse than it was then they just put their channel to subs or emote only
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thaMANSTA
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With the removal of the "Reruns" feature coming on June 28th 2022, it will actually exacerbate the confusion over Reruns!
Their solution is literally to tell streamers to upload their VODs, and stream it as LIVE (instead of a Rerun), and put "[Rerun] " in your stream title of your (not) LIVE stream. 🤦♂️
Essentially they're solution is to remove the proper/polite way to do reruns, and encourage the confusing and/or deceptive way of running Reruns.
https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/video-on-demand?language=en_US#reruns
Big Oof.
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Grandma_Sky
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I'm sorry but I don't believe reruns should be showing as if the streamer is live. Other streamers raid live streamers and now we don't know who is Actually live. Live means you are there at the moment!
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Stathi
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Totally agree with this 100%. Question, does this actually count toward the 2000 benchmark to partner? I certainly hope not, because that would be lame.
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metal7900
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I totally agree with this idea. They should seperate the channels who are really live and the other marked as pre recorded content. Running pre-recorded content 24/7 as live shouldnt be allowed and it is unfair towards to the smaller streaming channels.
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imh4ppy_
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thank you all so much for the support.. i hope twitch gives this the time it needs... but sadly the problem has evolved into something far worst... live channels with pre-recorded content.. often stolen intellectual property from other sites. if twitch doesn't care then it's obvious that their mission, vision and values as a company has change and no longer think for what's best for content creators or their communities
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BobiiiBo
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1 year later and ASMR category is still in a huge need of reorganization, there are sooo many reruns, it's really hard to find LIVE stream. Should add at least a filter so you can look only for LIVE. Please Twitch help that category!
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Ir1shguy
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Totally agree, I have viewers popping by and talking to noone before they realize its a rerun and even the odd host or raid which I would prefer going to an actual live channel.
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Twitching_Astronaut
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allow us to have a custom frame/border/overlay for Re-runs so that it's COMPLETLY OBVIOUS that the channel isn't live
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kimerakii
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Have a special border or a larger indication of when a video is a rerun; also have a message pop up in chat when someone goes to chat in a rerun
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BreezySummer
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I'm noticing this is still going on with some ASMR streamers. I came across one last week and have kept an eye on it to see when they'd change the same rerun video marked as live. It's kind of obvious without clicking at this point due to the costume being worn. The stream is marked as live and then once you're in there that's when there's a small note in the corner on the stream itself that it is indeed a rerun.
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GamenMetJJ
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Even though some ASMR channels that I like are rerunning as live, I agree that it has to be named correctly as live or rerun
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italiangamer3
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I agree.ASMR channles need to be Live only.
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ReeTeemo
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I agree! These channels are not live - they need to be stopped.
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papabear_999
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LIVE channels should only be able to be titled LIVE if they are actually LIVE. Pre-recorded material should not be allowed to be labeled as LIVE.