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New viewer count algorithms are questionable and only allow two simultaneous streams

I have recently tested your new viewer count algorithms and have found results that point to two simultaneous streams are allowed only... not a 'handful'(?) as you stated on twitter?
I believe this will make things impossible for the smaller streamers and hurt Twitch a little bit too in the long run.

The smaller streamers are basically the collateral damage in this as most streamers on twitch have a slow moving all important chat until they get into the 100s of viewers. Most of the viewers that do stay behind will usually have multiple streams open as their main, whilst they come by to say hi and see what's up every now and then. These are usually the early base of viewers that increase their viewer count to somewhat respectable for them to be noticed by more and more people and THAT is when their personality and charisma can come into play to get the snowball of rolling. By limiting these streamers to the 'two streams on max or their views won't count' law, the little guys basically have this taken away and it leaves practically only one option for them to realize their dreams: a once in a lifetime occurence causing them to go viral and blow up. A hard task has only become harder.

These new algorithms also don't take into account the fact that these days alot of people simply do not have a high attention span and seeing as the nature of streaming is more comparable to a 5 course dinner instead of quick fast food (Youtube), viewers are bound to be inclined to have multiple streams open simultaneously, and usually more than the two that are allowed nowadays.

In the long run I feel Twitch could discourage a large amount of streamers with this viewer count system and could lose promising streamers who will never realize their potential and who will never be discovered because of the new viewer count algorithms? If need be, at least make the competition fair by correcting the codes and make the rule affect everyone on twitch because I have come upon quite a few irregularities during testing. But ideally, a midway compromise could be adjusting the algorithms to 5 tabs, which seems more in line with the honest lurkers' viewing behavior on Twitch.

Thank you for your time and again, I hope Twitch will review their decision and at least leave a little bit more breathing space for the smaller streamer to grow.
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  • Ashle1 commented  ·   ·  Report

    This has been so bad and frustrating lately, there is absolutely no point in this. As a user I have lost so many streaks due to this and is very infuriating

  • samsami6543 commented  ·   ·  Report

    I understand your concern, and honestly, this does seem like a frustrating direction for smaller streamers. Limiting valid viewer counts to only two simultaneous streams can seriously affect the early growth stage, especially for streamers who depend on loyal lurkers and community members who naturally keep multiple tabs open while browsing. For many smaller creators, those early viewers help build momentum, visibility, and credibility, and reducing that support can make growth even harder than it already is.

    You also make a strong point about real viewer behavior. A lot of people do move between several streams at once, especially when chat is slow or when they want to support multiple creators. If the system no longer reflects normal user habits, then it risks punishing genuine engagement instead of filtering abuse. That could discourage many promising streamers before they ever get the chance to build an audience.

    A fairer solution would be for Twitch to review the algorithm carefully and find a middle ground that protects the platform without hurting smaller creators. Allowing more simultaneous counted streams, such as five, sounds much more realistic and balanced. By the way, my official website is insta2pro.com/#conclusion.
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  • GitoVT commented  ·   ·  Report

    Hello from 2025, after latest update it became even worse.
  • hardron commented  ·   ·  Report

    I totally agree, and now it feels even worse. It looks like they limited it to 1 channel...
  • HyliaFez commented  ·   ·  Report

    Latest comment was two years ago, but still relevant today. We should be able to support multiple people in different tabs (via ad revenue, average viewer numbers, and the like), without such a tight limit as only *two* simultaneous tabs counting for proper viewer numbers.

    Best would be something like 5 as the cap, and there might even be an argument for raising it as high as ~10, but we should be able to *at least* support 3 streams at once if we so desire.

    Also would help to maintain connections in certain communities, as we can check in periodically to chat and interact with these different tabs as well, without it removing our active viewer status from another channel at that time because of it.
  • d3MoGames commented  ·   ·  Report

    All I gather from this Twitch just REALLY doesn't want people to grow enough to hit partnership because they'll start losing money then. At this point they've done everything possible to stunt anyone who starts getting close to Partnership-drop how much we make from subs, kill host views counting towards your numbers, kill the recommendation algorithm, and now they're killing basically every view you get on twitch if this is true.

    Thank god for those twitch stat leaks this year or I would've thought I should stop streaming since I haven't been getting any closer to Partner lately.... everyone makes such a big deal out of being Partner but to my surprise being Partner doesn't actually mean that you make a lot of money on Twitch, who knew? 😆 It barely means anything now since Affiliates have gotten more emote slots AND follower/bit emotes!

    Also someone else commented that StreamLabs said they had 12 people in chat, but only average below 3. I recommend you look into what Average Viewer numbers actually are, because having 12 people stop by your chat for one minute a piece is not going to give you an average of 3 viewers over the course of one hour.
  • Ken_Koerperich commented  ·   ·  Report

    To little, to late man.

    I tried on 3 different accounts to make Affiliate, to no avail.

    This being one reason, the second is that Twitch's "Active Viewer" algorithm FAILS to actually log viewers properly.

    I've had days where I've had 12 - 14 people in chat, watching, and my "Streamlabs" and Twitch email both say so. Yet when I come back to Twitch and check under the dash board, it never fails to say only 1/3 Average Viewers.....

    I've been "F"d so much that I went back to YT and am attempting something there.

    I won't deal w/ Twitch's BS anymore...
  • ovomandy commented  ·   ·  Report

    Voted. Again, we are here for solutions instead of blaming the system. Hope Twitch can know what we are trying to request.
  • 澤哲 commented  ·   ·  Report

    We are here to look forward to a better and healthier community. I sincerely hope you can fix this for those streamers struggling but still paying their efforts on the platform.
  • SummonMason commented  ·   ·  Report

    Also it discourages raiding and hosting other streamers as small streamers fear for their viewers leaving extra tabs open since only two simultaneous streams are allowed in order for their viewership to count.
    I'm sure Twitch intended to encourage people to spread the love by hosting and raiding, but now it's become something of a grey area for small to average sized streamers.
  • あいちゃん苡嬡兒 commented  ·   ·  Report

    Voted. Again, we are here for solutions instead of blaming the system. Hope Twitch can know what we are trying to request.
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