New viewer count algorithms are questionable and only allow two simultaneous streams
I have recently tested your new viewer count algorithms and have found results that point to two simultaneous streams are allowed only... not a 'handful'(?) as you stated on twitter?
I believe this will make things impossible for the smaller streamers and hurt Twitch a little bit too in the long run.
The smaller streamers are basically the collateral damage in this as most streamers on twitch have a slow moving all important chat until they get into the 100s of viewers. Most of the viewers that do stay behind will usually have multiple streams open as their main, whilst they come by to say hi and see what's up every now and then. These are usually the early base of viewers that increase their viewer count to somewhat respectable for them to be noticed by more and more people and THAT is when their personality and charisma can come into play to get the snowball of rolling. By limiting these streamers to the 'two streams on max or their views won't count' law, the little guys basically have this taken away and it leaves practically only one option for them to realize their dreams: a once in a lifetime occurence causing them to go viral and blow up. A hard task has only become harder.
These new algorithms also don't take into account the fact that these days alot of people simply do not have a high attention span and seeing as the nature of streaming is more comparable to a 5 course dinner instead of quick fast food (Youtube), viewers are bound to be inclined to have multiple streams open simultaneously, and usually more than the two that are allowed nowadays.
In the long run I feel Twitch could discourage a large amount of streamers with this viewer count system and could lose promising streamers who will never realize their potential and who will never be discovered because of the new viewer count algorithms? If need be, at least make the competition fair by correcting the codes and make the rule affect everyone on twitch because I have come upon quite a few irregularities during testing. But ideally, a midway compromise could be adjusting the algorithms to 5 tabs, which seems more in line with the honest lurkers' viewing behavior on Twitch.
Thank you for your time and again, I hope Twitch will review their decision and at least leave a little bit more breathing space for the smaller streamer to grow.
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d3MoGames
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All I gather from this Twitch just REALLY doesn't want people to grow enough to hit partnership because they'll start losing money then. At this point they've done everything possible to stunt anyone who starts getting close to Partnership-drop how much we make from subs, kill host views counting towards your numbers, kill the recommendation algorithm, and now they're killing basically every view you get on twitch if this is true.
Thank god for those twitch stat leaks this year or I would've thought I should stop streaming since I haven't been getting any closer to Partner lately.... everyone makes such a big deal out of being Partner but to my surprise being Partner doesn't actually mean that you make a lot of money on Twitch, who knew? 😆 It barely means anything now since Affiliates have gotten more emote slots AND follower/bit emotes!
Also someone else commented that StreamLabs said they had 12 people in chat, but only average below 3. I recommend you look into what Average Viewer numbers actually are, because having 12 people stop by your chat for one minute a piece is not going to give you an average of 3 viewers over the course of one hour.
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Ken_Koerperich
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To little, to late man.
I tried on 3 different accounts to make Affiliate, to no avail.
This being one reason, the second is that Twitch's "Active Viewer" algorithm FAILS to actually log viewers properly.
I've had days where I've had 12 - 14 people in chat, watching, and my "Streamlabs" and Twitch email both say so. Yet when I come back to Twitch and check under the dash board, it never fails to say only 1/3 Average Viewers.....
I've been "F"d so much that I went back to YT and am attempting something there.
I won't deal w/ Twitch's BS anymore...
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CDCardBoardGames
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I agree
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JohannesLiv
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Well said.
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紺碧
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優質
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last0512
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很棒的.................
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ovomandy
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Voted. Again, we are here for solutions instead of blaming the system. Hope Twitch can know what we are trying to request.
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狼群
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很棒的實況主!
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二億傑神
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good one
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老寇
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很優質的台主
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澤哲
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We are here to look forward to a better and healthier community. I sincerely hope you can fix this for those streamers struggling but still paying their efforts on the platform.
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SummonMason
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Also it discourages raiding and hosting other streamers as small streamers fear for their viewers leaving extra tabs open since only two simultaneous streams are allowed in order for their viewership to count.
I'm sure Twitch intended to encourage people to spread the love by hosting and raiding, but now it's become something of a grey area for small to average sized streamers. -
あいちゃん苡嬡兒
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Voted. Again, we are here for solutions instead of blaming the system. Hope Twitch can know what we are trying to request.
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Mighty_MeoWs
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I must comment and agree with this , its been so hard the last year. Dancing between working and streaming on our off time. With this new system changing it would be limiting our viewers and make many streamerz unhappy and stressed after putting so much work on their channels. twitch! fix it or people will leave like Ninja did ...
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猫星
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Voted. Again, we are here for solutions instead of blaming the system. Hope Twitch can know what we are trying to request.