Reruns vs LIVE
Live vs Reruns
i think it should be made cleared when a chanel is on a rerun, it shouldn't say "LIVE"
A way that i think they could help new streamers, or lew viewercount streamers overall is to have two subcategories, Live and Reruns.
this would let streamers that are live have a chance to grow.
on the asmr category it's getting out of hands the amount of reruns, youtubecompilations and bots. and we can't do anything about it too. i've reported multiple channels but they are still there, even getting into front page. it's sad to see how the essence of t
witch is getting lost.
promoting reruns over live channels
Something really needs to be done about the ASMR category, reruns and re-streaming vods/youtube videos is really hurting the smaller channels that are trying to grow. How is someone supposed to gain any attention when all the top streams are just reruns and youtube videos? Thousands of viewers watching content that isn't even live... great 'live streaming' platform you have Twitch.
Reruns should be removed from appearing in the category and action needs to be taken against the channels that are streaming offline content. But will Twitch do anything about it? Nah.... lol
Would it be possible to have a simple popup on the control panel of every live stream every few hours that if not acknowledged switches the stream to rerun or not live?
I've seen so many versions of this and they are all bad. I've seen channels that run other people's pre-recorded stuff. I've seen the "Live" thing that people are talking about. I know of one streamer, for whatever reason, has a live channel and a 24-7 rerun marked "Live". Then ofc there are all of the ASMR channels that broadcast a drawing of an anime woman with pre-recorded audio. Ever since ASMR got it's own category, many fake asmrtists have jumped on the bandwagon.
ON a side note, we should have a category for all the boob streamers, irregardless of their main cat. I mean people watch those channels for the *****, not the asmr or game or dancing (ok, well they probably watch for the shake and jiggle).
I can understand why some would want to stream their yt videos to a certain extent. YT is not ASMR friendly and so many videos are instantly demonetized. So essentially, Artists make content that they are not getting a dime for. I wouldn’t get too down on those who stream their YT videos on twitch but I do agree with the 24/7 sentiment. There should be some audience interaction. How much I’ll leave to others to decide (don’t want to be the gate keeper on that). I am all for a separate category. There should be a “Live”, a “Rerun”, and a “PreRecorded” designation for Twitch folks to choose from. Reruns would be for old streams and PreRecorded would be for content the streamer has created offline or on a different platform. This we, we can filter who is live, there is no confusion, our feeds are not filled with “Live” people that aren’t there and we can still enjoy all the content from our favorites.
Completely agree. It goes against the whole concept of "live"streams. Reruns, as Twitch allows them as a function to rerun Twitch streams, are a good way to catch up. But those streams that are marked as "live" but are just YouTube videos on repeat for 24 hours is completely misleading, even to the platform, in my honest opinion. A lot of actual ASMR livestreamers have to voice their disappointment over it on the daily since it affects THEIR numbers. As I am writing this, 3 out of 5 "live"streams are prerecorded content. And often not moderated. People often don't even realize they are not watch live content because the stream is marked as "live." This definitely seems like there has to be more control over this since it is getting more out of hand as each day goes on.
It seems like a great idea in the short term, but absolutely horrible in the long run. These people aren't "live", how is it even considered "streaming"?? Come on twitch, lets use some common sense here and nip this in the bud...
This is so unfair to those who are spending their precious time streaming live to viewers when there are so many being allowed to use spliced together Youtube videos and Reruns and passing them off as live. Half the people don't seem to realise that it's pre-recorded. Live should mean live; you should be able to interact with the streamer and suchlike.
The more people who see nothing being done about certain channels the more emboldened they feel to do it themselves, and if it isn't ceased it will end up with many replicating.
If we all put live pre-recorded then Twitch would no longer be live. It doesn’t grow us smaller streamers this system. Twitch, you must not allow this.
I’m so tired of having 24/7 fake “Live” channels in my recommended videos.
I admire the work and commitment so many ASMR Streamers present to their communities day in and day out.
To have them pushed further and further down in the Directory by AFK 24/7 rerun channels is a travesty.
I can only imagine how disheartening it must be for Live Content Creators.
Fake pre-recorded broadcasts up as live should be taken down or placed below active streams. Live > reruns > fakeness
A separate tab for Reruns would really help!
Twitch is about live streaming. Those of us with live content should be above those posting videos. Simple
I come to Twitch for interactive content. I very rarely watch reruns and I don’t think content from YouTube should be passed off as live. There should definitely be a separation between live and reruns. I always run into streams that say live and then you see it’s prerecorded. It is very frustrating.
I wholeheartedly agree, fake not-live streams should be highlighted as that, and not put on the frontpage where the place is most ones that just want to look for an ASMR stream first go and take what pops in the eye because it's shown as live. It hurts actual live streamers that have to put in a lot of their private time and work to be "online" during these times, as well as neglecting the effort. Besides that "live" youtube content is neither live nor in accordance to twitchs own rules. That's not cool and not fair as well. Of course the creators of these videos might have put work and effort in the creation as well, but it shouldn't be advertised as "live" when it's not. The lack of clarification makes it in every sense false. To actually make it possible at all, that someone that puts a lot of work into it and streams live, is able to grow, they have to get the chance. #LiveOnlyForLiveStreamers and push to front page recommendations. It can't be in Twitchs nor the consumers interest that actual live content gets marginalized and eventually rooted out in advantage of reruns or youtube playlists.
TimeTraveler108 mentioned who I came across recently who seems to air their YouTube content 99.9% of the time. Every few days they might do a short live stream I guess to make it look like they participate in live streaming on Twitch regularly.
I followed them for awhile to make it easier to track their amount of reruns to make sure it wasn't me overthinking something. The other day I saw them running a prerecorded stream that had thick black binding their lower arms together with the same tape over their mouth. I'm not sure how they got it off their mouth but when I clicked to see what was going on because I was so curious they were removing the tape with their mouth. I had never seen an ASMR stream on Twitch doing something like that. I'm not a prude at all it was just really surprising.
It has been growing slowly and if more youtubers or people with pre recorded content catch on then ASMR and the Music sections will just become pre recorded videos playing as live, As a ASMR full time stream with a amazing community it saddens me to see people including myself becoming undescoverable in the categories because a stream showing as Live is playing pre recorded content 24/7 , I have to scroll and check in so many streams in the music section also to find amazing live talented people to interact with. Not only is it cluttering the categories and tricking people in to thinking they are live it is very demotivationg for a creator to feel like they will ever grow.With the live channels being in my front page reccomended sections as they are always live 24/7 noone else will ever get a chance. They are effectively farming viewers and followers to direct them to youtube or content else where, or gaining the stats to become affiliate or partner. Yup one of the channels is partnered! https://www.twitch.tv/japan_asmr , by allowing content to be streamed in this manner Twitch is effectively encouraging it, why put real live man hours in when you can play a video and gain affiliate?
Pre-recorded videos are against Twitch affiliate agreement. Live stream content has to be solely on twitch for 24 hours before it can be anywhere else. So these people who are live streaming content from their youtube that was recorded before it was put on twitch....are breaking this rule. Affiliate agreement 2.2 - "starting from beginning of the Initial Broadcast of any such Live Twitch Content, and continuing for a period of twenty-four (24) hours following the end of the Initial Broadcast of such Live Twitch Content (the “Exclusivity Period”), such Live Twitch Content is exclusive to Twitch (even as to you). During the Exclusivity Period of any Live Twitch Content, you will not, nor permit or authorize any third party to, broadcast, stream, distribute, exhibit and otherwise make available such Live Twitch Content in any manner. Notwithstanding the foregoing, you have the right to make any Live Twitch Content available, during the Exclusivity Period, solely via the Twitch Services. After the Exclusivity Period of any Live Twitch Content, the license to such Live Twitch Content will become non-exclusive and you will have the right to broadcast, stream, distribute, exhibit and otherwise make available such Live Twitch Content in any manner and format desired by you."
The solution to the bot problem is simple. A setting on the channel togglable should require bots to require a hash/token ID provided by the channel content creator/owner to allow access. Much like how Facebook, each App requires each individual user's authorization.
I agree on the point of Live vs. Reruns too.
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Haha no seriously, I agree 100% with the sentiments expressed in this suggestion. I think the genuine live streamers are getting a rotten deal when they give so much to the community and the website.
Much love to them, and I hope this suggestion is enacted ASAP. <3
I agree! Abolish the fake live streams please. It hurts the real content creators who chose to stream on Twitch. Protect our own talent!