Kick unwanted users/bots from Channel COMPLETELY!
We are now dealing with a new threat of bot accounts. These accounts sit lurking in channel, possibly logging info of either streamers or chatters. They may be using this info for giveaway sniping, or possible future bot attacks, including viewer bots, follower bots, and even spam bots. They sit there and do nothing, they follow us to other streams we host/raid. We ban them, not like they ever say anything, but to prevent them from spreading, we need a way to KICK THEM OFF THE CHANNEL.
Recently had a run in with "Opentwitchbot" whom acknowledges that they are running a bot in other's channels, but never requested permission to do so, instead, they want us to run THEIR command in our channels to make them leave, which isn't possible on our bots, because our bots are not design for that command, nor is it a Twitch command. I don't know what their command is doing, and I certainly don't trust it. When confronting them on the fact that their bot is breaking ToS, they reported me for reporting them. I requested and stated to them several times, their bot is not welcomed in my channel, and they refused to remove themselves until the end of my stream, waiting for me to host someone and latch on to them, thus spreading.
We've all been noticing another set of bots possibly working together, Faegwent ThisIsMyDevAccount and chatdb, they never speak, but they have hundreds if not thousands of followers, they never broadcast, etc etc, what are they doing sitting in our chat? sending info to these followers? that's against ToS. We the broadcasters need an option to kick them from the page, doesn't have to be permanent, they might have an option to hop back on, but I think we should have some sort of captcha security so they can PROVE they are human, and not a bot when rejoining the page!
Banning doesn't do enough if they can still read the chat and gather the info. Reporting seems to do nothing for the past 2 months of reporting them, from MULTIPLE witnesses/reporters. It's about time we have some control over the unwelcome bot accounts.
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A Hard Working Broadcaster, just trying to stop the spread of unwanted guests.
Hi, I know that this is a very late response, but we’re hoping to find time to address this issue later this year. There are a few steps we’ll have to take to solve this problem in a way that will work for all streamers, but we understand the severity of the issue.
i would like banned bots and banned viewers to be unable to see the stream at all. such as : not even view the twitch account webpage.
@Trevor Here's the part I don't understand:
1) When you're banned from a Twitch channel, you kicked out of chat.
2) When you're banned from an IRC channel, you're kicked out of chat.
So why in the world can't we ban bots to kick them out of chat?
Of course I think it would be nice to require chat bots to allow people to unsubscribe from their service. But advanced features like that don't seem necessary at all. Just treat bots like users and let people ban them into oblivion. The end.
these bots now have weirdly ****** names that is disgusting. I don't mind as much the ones like commanderroot but vye_brators and wetgrannies??? Really? Please let us kick them!
Wouldn't this just be a cosmetic change?... because there are probably several invisible bots in every channel. Just like not logging into the Twitch site you can read chat invisible, bots can join as an invisible user. They never request permission to do so, and can all be logged everything.
and you can't ban what you can't see. I assume the long term fix is a lot more complex than people realize.
As for people saying "so what if you get and extra viewer" - chatters are not viewers. Most of the bots being talked about will not have the video player open therefore are not viewers. They will not raise your placement based on viewers.
"Hi, I know that this is a very late response, but we’re hoping to find time to address this issue later this year." 2019
Halfway through 2020, and still nothing.
Somebody bought me followers please remove them.
Why can't it just be that permabanned accounts can not see the channel in the whole Twitch until unbanned? It would prevent any bots from lurking in the chat.
Just over a year later and no word on anything regarding the rampant usage of bots to self advertise and otherwise be pests? Fleas don't do much harm in small numbers. If left unchecked they multiply and become a very serious problem. Bots are no different.
Even if you changed the bot TOS to require the author to state a clear purpose of the bot and (again, stating CLEARLY) a no-gimik way to remove the bot (i.e. locking it behind a "follower only" chat for example) would prove sufficient.
The aforementioned change requires no coding, does not hurt the benign bots (which already follow those general guidelines - minus the follower-only chat for a few), and will make us (for the most part) happy as we can remove the bot from our IRC completely.
Twitch claims they want what is best for the community. The bots are a festering problem and -not- best for the community.
I'm still waiting...
Please do something ive been boted 7,000 followers 😭
Welcome to 2020
To my understanding the chat is a separate entity from Twitch it self, it is old school IRC chat. It's kinda like dealing with open source, no one can really controls it. This chat has been in place since the old Justin.tv days and been no upgrades really to it since. They would have to build something from the ground up and replace it for us to have that kind of control. I hope it happens soon it would be nice.
TL/DR: If a streamer doesn't want a user on their channel / watching their stream, there should be a way to completely remove them from it. Banning only stops them from talking, but they're still able to remain in the channel. A kick function would be a welcome addition.
People have to remember. Whether the bots are doing anything against ToS is irrelevant. If someone doesn't want them or any user on their channel, there should be a way to remove said bot / user and prevent them from coming back / view the stream.
With some sort of Kick function, the people who aren't bothered by these bots can keep ignoring and have said bots stay on their streams. While those who don't want them have an option to remove them. Not all of these bots have some sort of "Type this phrase to make me leave" method.
Not to mention the kick function can also be used to remove actual users that the streamer doesn't want around at all.
As a Developer who creates bots. I read the Developer ToS and I don't see it stating that it's not allowed to join channels automatically.
Most of them just lurk to gather info, like CommanderRoot provides changelogs, no harm done. If you do gain an extra viewer, why is that bad? You get a higher spot on the Browse list.
Ey Twitch. Still waiting for this to happen. Some bots go away after you do something. but some like AnotherTTVViewer don't have any info on them or a way to kick them. PLEASE DO SOMETHING THIS YEAR!
For the blacklist
get rid of Vivbot off my Channel and everyone elses !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any news on this?
"Later this year" is starting to approach it's deadline and I keep finding new bots.
Why can't you just make it so a ban means they can't join the channel or view your content anymore..?
User "Zanekyber" has a bot that sits in your chat and in order to OPT OT of his bot, you have to go to their channel and write " PunOko " BUT...
The channel is in Follower's Only mode. Seriously. Blocked them instead.
Dear Twitch, please sort this out as soon as possible. This is really annoying.