Intentional misuse of tags ie. Vtuber tag on non-Vtuber
There has been a recent rise in streamers misusing the tag system, most noticeably with non-Vtubers using the Vtuber tag. This makes discoverability more difficult for both streamers who are actually Vtubers, and viewers trying to use the tag system to find Vtubers. Even prominent streamers are misusing tags, so this behavior has been spreading. I'd like to ask Twitch staff to please enforce action on the misuse of tags to help the streamers and viewers who are using the tag system as intended. Banning streamers from using specific tags they have been caught and verified to be abusing them might be a helpful solution to consider.
Hi, thanks for flagging this and sharing your suggestion.
We share and understand your concerns about how the intentional, repeated misuse of tags can undermine the purpose of the tags product itself. Tags are an important discoverability feature for communities, and a powerful way for all Creators—but especially those that are underrepresented—to express their personal identity and creative vision for their content.
We also do not feel Twitch should be the judge of Creators’ personal or creative identity, so we typically only enforce against the misuse of tags when it is associated with other behavior that violates our Community Guidelines such as hateful conduct or harassment.
That said, as the VTuber community’s experience demonstrates, there are limitations to this approach and we are actively investigating additional steps we can take to protect and improve the integrity of the tags feature at scale, without infringing on good faith Creators’ personal choice to express themselves and define their content.
Our goal is to have more to share with you about the tags feature later this year.
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Madetofall commented
"We also do not feel Twitch should be the judge of Creators’ personal or creative identity, so we typically only enforce against the misuse of tags when it is associated with other behavior that violates our Community Guidelines such as hateful conduct or harassment."
I'm not sure you are watching the same streams we are, because if you were, you might be recognizing the problem areas in some of the "creative identities" that are utilizing certain tags. Unless there is some profound loophole that allows people to interpret words that have pretty clear meanings in whatever way they feel, and that intent is somehow relevant over content, then it's obvious there isn't any good or legitimate reason for the groups of people that are failing to comply with what the rest of us see as pretty distinct standards. It's obvious it is predominantly a group, an organized unit of people who share identical content, identical behaviors, and are equally and substantially unwilling to behave reasonably - all partnered streamers, as I recall.
I am disappointed in how unsurprised I am that Twitch staff are giving themselves an out over what is a pretty obvious solution. You inform the offending partnered streamers to comply with base standards of behavior and that failure to do so will result in the termination of their channels. If it is a meaningful thing to them then they will provide rational reasoning behind their behavior and we can all be enlightened. Otherwise, Twitch enforces simple rules and they will either conform or be subject to what should be routine administrative action.
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rednecknekomimi commented
"We also do not feel Twitch should be the judge of Creators’ personal or creative identity, so we typically only enforce against the misuse of tags when it is associated with other behavior that violates our Community Guidelines such as hateful conduct or harassment." A non-answer. Jesus Christ. Does Twitch hire just about anyone to do moderation nowadays?
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themomokoshow commented
i've made a petition that would force twitch to enforce thier tag's even on thier famous cash cow pay their price https://www.change.org/p/make-twitch-enforce-their-tag-policy
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dirtyshadow commented
Is Twitch admitting they are failing to moderate content, according to their own policy?
"You are expected to accurately label your content to the best of your ability. When choosing a category or tag, please choose whichever best describes your content. Deliberate or extensive misuse of titles, tags, games/categories, or other metadata are prohibited"
They are deliberately being Bad Actors on your platform, treat them as such, bonk them on the head now, or this behaviour will spread.
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DragonMomToxic commented
I suppose that my reporting ElisabeteTV for her softcore *********** was good because as it stands, just reporting the tag misuse won't get anyone anywhere. This is basically going into the territory of allowing minors to potentially risk seeing this content. I logged out and when I checked out ElisabeteTV who was online, I did not get a warning or flag that her content was 18+ which means she is doing these rather lewd, adult streams where children under the age can potentially risk seeing them.
Yes, people can and will very much not click on a IRL Streamer/Facecam streamer under the Vtuber tag but not EVERYONE will. Which means, a minor could very easily stumble upon someone sucking off a mic and showing their breasts and behind all over stream while moaning suggestively to a mic.
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Golias_vt commented
Twitch rather sidelines this entire community with plenty of partners and instead sides with the sexually explicit ASMR person who accused this entire community of CSA after being kindly asked to stop misusing the tag.
That person is still a partner
That person is apparently endorsing Twitch' norms and values, which apparently differ from TOS. -
BossmanPOJO commented
They have low key softcore **** on their site, you think they even try anymore, the twitch staff is a joke, remove the tag system, you clearly dont want to enforce, quit lying to people. Tags mean nothing to the staff with this response. Only money.
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ShiroShikiCh commented
Twitch doesn't care and I got my hopes up.
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Unlucky_Karp commented
Ok im now convinced twitch is sucking off jerks like XqC
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themannlocke commented
Got it, you're doing nothing and covering for large streamers at the expense of small streamers.
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RubyDead_Queen commented
@Hurpy they already have streamers dancing around in bikinis and their underwear.
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Hurpy commented
Twitch doesn't want to judge a creator's identity? Can't wait for all the naked streams when streamers start identifying as nudists.
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RubyDead_Queen commented
Well, @Bulldogg6404, I say we report every time we see someone using the tag that isn't a vtuber. Flood them until they have to respond.
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Bulldogg6404 commented
People who are reported for hateful conduct or harassment will already be punished for those violations of Community Guidelines, so what's the point of reporting the misuse of tags if it's only investigated in conjunction with those violations?
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KiniLynae commented
You are REQUIRED to enforce your terms and conditions. If you say you can't do something you can't turn a blind eye when someone does it, ESPECIALLY when you ban others for much less.
TOS
9 Prohibited contenti. create, upload, transmit, distribute, or store any content that is inaccurate, unlawful, infringing, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, harassing, threatening, abusive, inflammatory, or otherwise objectionable;
v. defame, harass, abuse, threaten, or defraud users of the Twitch Services, or collect or attempt to collect, personal information about users or third parties without their consent;
Content Labeling
You are expected to accurately label your content to the best of your ability. When choosing a category or tag, please choose whichever best describes your content. Deliberate or extensive misuse of titles, tags, games/categories, or other metadata are prohibited. -
DaveGamesVT commented
You guys are absolutely worthless. I'm done giving anyone money through twitch until real action is taken.
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HurtboxTV commented
So you don't care because the top streamers that are abusing this tag and violating your TOS bring in a lot of money?
This screams PR "We understand your concern" nonsense.
Do better.
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Godofwar889 commented
So what your saying twitch is your literally doing nothing again, it simple Vtubers are people who use digital avatars instead of face cams.
Get off your *** and enforce ToS and ban top streamers who continue to do it. -
Shade_Lotas commented
Are you joking.....this is about non vtubers using the tag to stay relevant and you'll just shoo them to the side. This takes from us who work hard! DO BETTER TWITCH!
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EnyoOnline commented
So... No action at all on the probably hundreds of reports then?
This isn't a response. It's a delay tactic. You have the reports. Act on them.
You have big streamers literally laughing about the idea you'd enforce rules to protect smaller communities. It's a large part of why you keep losing content to YouTube.