Intentional misuse of tags ie. Vtuber tag on non-Vtuber
There has been a recent rise in streamers misusing the tag system, most noticeably with non-Vtubers using the Vtuber tag. This makes discoverability more difficult for both streamers who are actually Vtubers, and viewers trying to use the tag system to find Vtubers. Even prominent streamers are misusing tags, so this behavior has been spreading. I'd like to ask Twitch staff to please enforce action on the misuse of tags to help the streamers and viewers who are using the tag system as intended. Banning streamers from using specific tags they have been caught and verified to be abusing them might be a helpful solution to consider.
Hi, thanks for flagging this and sharing your suggestion.
We share and understand your concerns about how the intentional, repeated misuse of tags can undermine the purpose of the tags product itself. Tags are an important discoverability feature for communities, and a powerful way for all Creators—but especially those that are underrepresented—to express their personal identity and creative vision for their content.
We also do not feel Twitch should be the judge of Creators’ personal or creative identity, so we typically only enforce against the misuse of tags when it is associated with other behavior that violates our Community Guidelines such as hateful conduct or harassment.
That said, as the VTuber community’s experience demonstrates, there are limitations to this approach and we are actively investigating additional steps we can take to protect and improve the integrity of the tags feature at scale, without infringing on good faith Creators’ personal choice to express themselves and define their content.
Our goal is to have more to share with you about the tags feature later this year.
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mlgbobby_yt commented
Just when you think twitch couldn't be more disappointing they find a way
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theultimaterrat commented
I've never been more disappointed in Twitch oml
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TheLastShadow45 commented
Vtuber takeover week started and to no ones surprise the tag is being misused again by pools, hot tubs and beaches chicks shoving their *** in the camera. So yet again twitch staff has failed to do anything of importance with this new tag system.
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Hexetia commented
Twitch might as well just remove the tag system since no one uses it properly and all big streamer misuse it with no consequences.
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AlterSouji commented
So both Twitch and YouTube doesn't seem to give a **** about its content creators, with Twitch ignoring its small to medium ones and YouTube outright disregarding the abuse of its system. Now, where can content creators go?
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LordDark_VT commented
My content is still smothered with ads and yet the things that help people find my content are still clogged by people abusing the tag. Gunna have to quit soon if it doesn't pick up.
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TheLastShadow45 commented
Streamers mentioned before are still abusing the tag and twitch staff still isn't being productive and banning them.
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Unsounded commented
It's been so long and all we got was a weak acknowledgement without any action. I still see both large and small streamers do this without even being asked not to do it let alone being punished.
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arreffem commented
This is still happening FYI
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Lanter25Green commented
I would think that an option is already in place that after so many reports of a certain nature, things would be looked into?
Why not just expand upon that, to which fail safes could be put in place or attempted to.
Put an option under the report a streamer, giving the ability to mark what the report is about. Set a default threshold for # of reports. containing the same topic. This way reports can be separated for easier filing.
Upon the threshold being meet, or passed. The creators account is disabled, until a physical and electronic investigation takes place. 5 - 7 business days. This would afford all involved to bring what is needed/required to either move for or against this Initial Sentence against the Creator.
Of course depending on the decision actions can be chosen to proceed forward.
I will personally admit, that the abuse for things of this manner have never really been something that I pay attention to , as I generally never pay attention to the tags (started ps4) Yeah I can understand maybe just bringing it to the creators attention they have mis-tagged something. A lot of the time, it was just that a mis-tag.
Get a think tank of creators of the same community to sit down and come up with various ways as to correct and/or rectify damages should any incur.
With punishment becoming more intense with every repeat?
Or sit down with the creator until an agreed upon plan is done.However, I regardless of which way this goes....
And another thought... IP bans not a thing anymore?
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jayloadable commented
Complete honesty she should be banned as she was conducting hateful conduct and harassment on people who only asked her reasonable questions and a reasonable request
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theFattyFatty2x4 commented
are we still memeing on this? real talk though, how is it vtubers will have 10k twitter followers and 200 twitch followers? git gud kids. make better content and appreciate the fact that large streamers are shedding some light on your niche corner of the internet where everyone pretends to be someone else.
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totally a real vTuber here and I vTube every stream. -
TheStarSibyl commented
Might as well leave twitch. They obviously don't care anymore. Got too big for their shoes.
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N3ykoNee commented
Let's consider leaving twitch at this point.
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mattguy17 commented
Twitch thinks with their ****, Not their brain
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Altariax4 commented
This is an all-too-familiar trend on many platforms. What is the point of creating a TOS and rule system if it can be blatantly ignored? Why bother setting guidelines when they can be overlooked because "we don't wanna hurt their feelings." In total honesty, hurting someone's feelings should be the last of your priorities as a platform when someone is CLEARLY and without a doubt disregarding rules THIS PLATFORM set in place.
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JessIsCringe commented
The response by the admin, dowski, is terrifying by the precedent it can set.
If I say I'm a musician, I should be making music, right? Following the response to it's most extreme interpretation, no, I should be drawing character art and say I'm a musician.
I'm all for challenging accepted concepts but I'll gladly draw a line in the sand when it comes to blatantly lying.
This is an issue that can effect everyone, too. If the rules aren't enforced now, bad actors will notice and keep pushing the envelope until Twitch staff puts their foot down.
I rather see them do it now so we don't get worst case scenarios.
We've seen creators and users on other platforms do just that. TikTokers pretending to have disassociative identity and reinforcing cartoonish and negative stereotypes of consciously switching personalities, YouTubers pretending to have life threatening conditions and saying they will die while running a giftcard giveaway scam for viewer engagement and pushing dangerous homeopathic ideas onto their fans, and infamous users on multiple platforms trying to redefine sexuality to include dangerous paraphilias into the LGBTQ banner because they were (and in some cases still are) protected because they claim it's an identity.
This may be paranoia on my part, people may say I'm using the slippery slope fallacy, but this has happened before on other platforms; don't let it happen on Twitch, draw the lines now so you don't need to later.
A VTuber is a creator who uses a virtual avatar in place of a facecam and animates it using motion capture and/or sound detection software. This is an artistic medium, not a piece of art, it's not open for interpretations like creative identity.
A painter paints paintings, a musician performs music, an author writes books, and a VTuber uses an avatar and software to animate it in real time.
Don't let loose interpretation open the door for bad actors to ruin tags for users who genuinely use and embrace the tags they attach to their streams, it helps no one and, if left to grow, hurts everyone.
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HarusukiVT commented
You know with how twitch is handling this, I think it's time to look in to and grow with one of their competitors instead. It's been blatantly obvious that twitch doesn't care what it's majority users want and only gives what doesn't affect their precious top 0.5% money makers.
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lucatiel_of_the_void commented
It's very simple, Twitch staff. Vtuber has a definition. A VTuber, or virtual YouTuber, is an online entertainer who uses a virtual avatar generated using computer graphics and real-time motion capture software or technology.
If the content creator who has been reported is not using a virtual avatar for a majority of their streams, then they are not a Vtuber. Start enforcing the rule, or you're going to lose users.
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iamacat_media commented
So people can just say they are a vtuber when they arent? Fix your tags