Intentional misuse of tags ie. Vtuber tag on non-Vtuber
There has been a recent rise in streamers misusing the tag system, most noticeably with non-Vtubers using the Vtuber tag. This makes discoverability more difficult for both streamers who are actually Vtubers, and viewers trying to use the tag system to find Vtubers. Even prominent streamers are misusing tags, so this behavior has been spreading. I'd like to ask Twitch staff to please enforce action on the misuse of tags to help the streamers and viewers who are using the tag system as intended. Banning streamers from using specific tags they have been caught and verified to be abusing them might be a helpful solution to consider.
Marina
shared this idea
Admindowski
(Admin, Twitch)
responded
Hi, thanks for flagging this and sharing your suggestion.
We share and understand your concerns about how the intentional, repeated misuse of tags can undermine the purpose of the tags product itself. Tags are an important discoverability feature for communities, and a powerful way for all Creators—but especially those that are underrepresented—to express their personal identity and creative vision for their content.
We also do not feel Twitch should be the judge of Creators’ personal or creative identity, so we typically only enforce against the misuse of tags when it is associated with other behavior that violates our Community Guidelines such as hateful conduct or harassment.
That said, as the VTuber community’s experience demonstrates, there are limitations to this approach and we are actively investigating additional steps we can take to protect and improve the integrity of the tags feature at scale, without infringing on good faith Creators’ personal choice to express themselves and define their content.
Our goal is to have more to share with you about the tags feature later this year.
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hx01ssjs
commented
same i dont get it either
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ElizabethMcFife
commented
I don't understand why this is the highest rated problem on twitch. Whenever I try to set vtuber or lgbti tags i get 99.8% trolls to 0.2% actual viewers.
WTF?
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local_techpriest
commented
Just stopping by to point out Twitch has now had this on their plate as a known problem for nearly 5 months without any effective solution for it. Really not all that hard to fix folks, all it takes is creating and enforcing a policy on gross misuse of tags.
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PrimeErebus
commented
As stated by Marina months ago, the ever-climbing rise of people abusing the VTUBER tag that has gone unpunished only adds to the ever-growing issues this presented when this first began.
The ability for VTUBER's to be discovered is being hindered by non-VTUBER's abusing and misusing the tag for personal gain. This is not only seen at the highest levels of viewership on Twitch, but at the lower viewer counts as well.
The reason why this has been such an issue is because of the larger-scale streamers getting away with it without so much as a warning to stop. Thus, creating thousands of others taking the opportunity to follow in their footsteps which completely oversaturates the VTUBER tag with people who are not VTUBE'ing.
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PerrinSedai
commented
This is literally the most voted idea here, and still, nothing has been done about it. You are actually having a VTuber event right now and still allowing people to misuse the tag.
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thegreatwroggi
commented
I'll be honest wit'ch'y'all, I completely forgot I even wrote this up...what? Back in April? I'm glad y'all're commentin' and sharin.' Twitch needs to understand that the tags system they created is being abused, and not just by some trolls; but by streamers with thousands or more viewers. Streamers who ruin the experience for other streamers that are using the tag system [or lack there-of now] properly, and people who want to discover streamers from those tags, who actually make content related to those tags.
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mlgbobby_yt
commented
Lareolan probably both at this point
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HarbiShetla
commented
Twitch literally said "who are we to say an irl human isn't a vtuber if that's what they identify as?"
This isn't about gender identity, Twitch.
This is literally irl humans on camera calling themselves VTubers... That's not... What VTubers are. This shouldn't even be a discussion are you all okay??? -
Lareolan
commented
So you're going to have a "VTuber Takeover" event, and then allow non-VTubers to take over the VTuber tag... Does Twitch need to look up the definition of irony or laziness?
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Thalarob
commented
Good to see that on twitches own Vtuber Takeover event, the second top streamer in the Vtuber catagory is still able to abuse the Vtuber tag. Good Job.
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CapriaSeabrook
commented
Can we repost this same concern as a re-visiting? Since Twitch changed their tag system, maybe they'll have something new to say (doubtful, but possible)
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PrimeErebus
commented
Even after the "rework" twitch made on tags, the vtuber tag is widely abused. Thanks for nothing Twitch.
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CharacterinGlasses
commented
This could easily be the platform for Vtubers, it’s simple, protect the tag from being used by streamers who belong on **** sites. By allowing them to use it you are associating Vtubers with **** streamers. This hurts your platform, and limits Vtubers success. I don’t care if a performer does lewd streams, I care about what I can trust letting my kid see, and my friends successes
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botanicalkojjie
commented
It is frustrating they don't want to stop the misuse of tags unless there is a violation to tos. BUT WAIT, when people are doing suggestive things for tips like squatting basically naked because their "bathing suit" covers nothing" in a pool in their bedroom, its fine to abuse tags and tos.
Other people are punished for linking Patreon in their tittle and told they are trading sexual favors but some people are doing that on stream and nothing is done.
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vtubercommander
commented
Let's do the math here 8000 reports on the account that are being missed used the tag or do just sit throwing our views/opinions not be seen on this post. Stick together and the voices of the people will be heard.
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MallowCatMeow
commented
So what you're telling us then, is despite your staff running a vtuber agency, y'all don't know what a vtuber is and don't care that irl streamers are using the tag to show their literal *****. Yet I, as an actual vtuber, can't have a swimsuit that covers everything because that counts as nudity? But someone having literal actual irl sex on stream gets a 7 day ban and "lol don't do it again...unless you can earn us money with it"
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Badiiin
commented
Twitch had a select list of tags to make the discoverity better, people complained that the approved list was short and should include more tags, Twitch took a year and half to make a near-perfect list of tags. People still complained, because some jackasses misused the tags, while some wanted to write their own tags. Twitch removed entirely the approved list of tags, and now EVERYONE can misuse tags and ruin the discovery.
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detective_nathan_grim
commented
this **** is geting out of control ..TWITCH DO BETTER
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omnishredder
commented
You might not care, but you're not us twitch, you're opinions don't represent the victims or the viewers, you are the government to this kingdom, we care and, by proxy we are right, because WE ARE THE CUSTOMER!
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LupoMarcio
commented
I don't really expect anything anymore from a platform that bans ONLY FOR 7 DAYS someone having sex on a livestream.
That's sad.