The Issue with the Hot Tub Meta
Recently in the twitch community, there has been a rise of hot tub streamers also known as the "Hot Tub Meta". This has been a very controversial issue but I'm going to give my thoughts on the issue and hopefully twitch will do something about this. On twitch TOS it's stated "Content or camera focus on breasts, buttocks, or pelvic region, including poses that deliberately highlight these elements". This means any sort of content that deliberately does these would be against TOS. Now when we look at how the Hot Tub Meta we can see that it's unhealthy and unfair to the community. When I was looking through some of the streams a streamer called "Kaellyn" had their butt covering half the screen which I would assume is against TOS but nowadays it's hard to tell. Although the whole stream isn't just that it was obvious that she did to satisfy her chat. Another example is the popular streamer "Amouranth" who lets their viewers donate money to get their name written on many things the most common one being floaty. Just tuning into the chat for a few minutes I saw many twitch users send very questionable things such as "Show feet Kreygasm" "Show your booty" "Change bikini" and many more things. Constantly messages were being deleted by mods because they were either offensive or very . Another issue is the fact that it's clear that these streams are but the streamers don't even care to put the stream to mature just to get more people. This means that many kids can easily just go onto these streams and see big booba's. It's clear that this issue has gotten out of hand and that it needs to be stopped. My final thoughts are that although this stuff is "content" I don't think it's healthy or fair to the community and streamers to continue letting these streams go on. I think streamers should be able to be creative with their content as well. Hopefully twitch will something about this. Thank you for reading.
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treygaming360tz
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There has to be something done. Im so concerned about Children viewers on twitch. Your app is great its an awesome platform but like Youtube years ago children were able to find 🔞 content just in the suggestions and explore pages. Its such a concern that children will see the Hottub streams and dive into 🔞 site watching. Please if you care at all put a filter option for children and for Adults who are trying to avoid 🔞 content.
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iadultsohard
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Drop algorithms and search indexing for those whom employ props instead of actual skill or talent. Example : People whom use their body or an animation typically nearly nude to get viewers.
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darkinos
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Youtube: "The New & Improved HOT TUB Section! Asmongold Reacts to Twitch's New Category"
Quite "decent" sum up of their "new" standing for this...
Most of it is just dumb excuses...
And some are literally lies..
I see behind it only "We are scared to ban women, because feminism is too strong lately, we do not want Karens yelling at us."
And yeah "Pools, Hot Tubs & Beaches" category.. that is just .. "soft erotics" in short way.. -
Victor_sty00
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The recent upload of Hot Tubs is not welcomed by people who have been using twitch for years. This new content has shown that you totally hate your conttent creators. They have been working in a gaming streaming platform and now it is converting in a website where a lot of ***** old guys will end. You will only do something when -18 girls would do a hot tub stream and twitch will be considered a pedofile website.
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Sig_Sujin
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We all agree on that : Streamers in the Hot Tub category are putting themselves in different suggestive posture. It's not because you put them in a new categorie that it will be contained. THIS, is not creating content, THIS is not child-friendly, and Twitch IS NOT another platform -18 proposing female 3/4 naked, like theres thousand of them.
How the h-ell will you prevent yourself to become a platform like that ? You're just opening the door, and you're holding it tight, just because there's money behind. But, you'll losing a lot of GOOD creator who will just go on YT, or another streaming platform. -
eatchickenkids
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Dear Twitch
Hot Tun streamers are ruining the platform theres body painters who have been banned for painting there body but for some reason your allowing girls in thongs to be riding inflate able animals putting polls saying do u with you where the ballon. This is very annoying my recommend channels are just full of these people and twitch is starting to feel more like a 18+ site please end this.
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scorchviper1
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Ban the hot tub streams and body paint streams not only cause of the swimsuits are unacceptable for a game streaming site and most of them have a fans only page which if anyone wants to see them then they should go there. Twitch was made for the content creators that dont have to use how they look to provide good content. Please fix this and ban all this garbage cause if a guy would do a hot tub stream they can't wear what they would in a hot tub because guys are normally topless
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mama_pierrezago
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I think the fact that hot tub is stealing viewers from those who really deserve it and twitch does not change the policies of users / streamers because they make money from this which is politically incorrect being a platform with a great name! Either they change the rules about hot tub and bikinis and sexually explicit content or twitch will lose a lot of money in a month! It's good that they start thinking of ways to get around this hot tub thing, because twitch has lost 0.2% of users, and it's going down (statistically), and with the pace that things take, it will continue to lose, in 1 month if this continues it will lose 4 to 8% of the people they had! So change the rules twitch! And start banning this kind of obscene and inappropriate content for smaller viewers! Many of the streamers even send content from their onlyfans to the viewers! which should also be banned!
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play_doh_potato
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I for one say take the bikinis and lewd clothing off. There are OnlyFans for that. Having kids that enjoy this site for gaming content and learning from gaming streamers is hard to let them navigate this by themselves because I do not want them to think this behavior is okay to flaunt their bodies for capital gain.
At least let us have an option to ban a streamer from showing up in the categories. You let them ban us, now it's time to let US ban THEM.
They obviously don't have content I want in the house and there is no way to block them.
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Clow_Gameplay
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There are children who also use the twitch platform and that gets ugly, in addition to being a lack of respect for those who want to become a game creator for example, while a woman transmits in a bikini and gets millions of bits and gifts, which broadcasts games does not earn 1 cent.
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ChrisFoster
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Twitch did address 'Hot Tub Meta' here: https://www.twitch.tv/twitch/clip/DiligentRealSnoodGOWSkull-VGYP9UpkPsNmYlrB
The issue I see is that most streamers are doing this in a s*xually suggestive manner, with the clear intention to arouse viewers and provoke a s*xual response from them for financial gain. This does go against the S*exually Suggestive Content section of Twitch TOS, however Twitch Staff who review such reports need to be much more strict on the matter.
See my post here: https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/933812-safety/suggestions/43288824-stricter-rules-against-sexually-suggestive-streame
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adamn84
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I don't know what the legal ramifications are going to be, but its absolutely coming to twitch/amazon soon because they have let their "gaming" site become a money grab **** and gambling site. I can navigate around just fine, but I'd be terrified if I had a child.
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authorized411
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I think the TOS should be updated to say that a non-sleeveless shirt and at least shorts (no Daisy Dukes) be worn at all time. It's better to be clear rather than so generalized that streamers who push it to the edge or over can make an argument in their favor and win.
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Stronzo_ATBA
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Focus on Real Streamers and or Small Streamers to get support on your front page and not those girlies which playing in Bikinis etc...
I thought Twitch is very strickt on those Rules and Regulations
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T3KKAD4N
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this needs sorting.
those stramers should all be banned or removed from platform.
this breaks the t.o.s
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SeasKnots
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I hadn't thought of mentioning it here, but since you've already called attention to it... I can't bring up Twitch in my living room with my kids home for this exact reason. Taking away from the gaming community is one thing, but seeing the app freeze up on the home page with *** cheeks pressed to the camera is a huge deterrent for letting it play when I'm not around to monitor the content.
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AWildGabriel
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I was thinking like.. we should add a category for hot tub streamers. just so if I wanted to go to the cam girl section on a stream gaming website I could.
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volex1102
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Two days ago, I just finished installing fresh install of the Twitch app on my living room Fire TV. Booted it up, and before even logging in be introduced with a big thumbnail of a half naked streamer doing a hot tub stream on "Recommended Channels". A very age appropriate introduction. Heck, I don't care if Twitch chooses to not get rid of them, just don't shove this on the front page. I didn't come to this site to feel like I'm on Chaturbate
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fried_yuca
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I have been using my free Prime subscription for about 2 years to help support small streamers. I will not be using my free Prime subscription going forward until you resolve the hot tub meta. Little kids should not be bombarded with hot tub suggestions just because they follow wholesome female streamers.
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fallendarkone220
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Hello everyone,
I mean is it ok in 2021 to be streaming almost **** content on twitch and everyone is fine with it? Because I am not there is plenty other web pages for **** contect and I hate to watch hot tub naked girls on my twitch. My point is not to create bubble around me and not be able to see them. This has literally nothing to do on twitch at all!
I would love to get some feedback is this is really fine?
Thank you