When appealing muted music on a VOD, add an option for "Claimant Is Not Actually the Copyright Holder"
I recently had a GB Tetris stream get muted because the copyright bot's song IDing listed "Ikon Ringtones" as the owner of the song.
I can say with full confidence that "Ikon Ringtones" does NOT own Hirokazu Tanaka's 8-bit rendition of a Russian folk song. And that's been the problem for years - bad actors clowning around with copyright claims for video game music they don't own. Not only do establishments like "Ikon Ringtones" get away with it for using video game music as ringtone options, insignificant nobody DJs have also been known to do it when they sample music from a video game and then streamers get muted for nothing more than playing a video game.
It's high time Twitch allows us to appeal muted streams based on the supposed claimant clearly not owning the rights to the music, and puts more manual effort into identifying these bad actors and disqualifying them from further copyright claims without definitive proof that they are the owner of the copyrighted work.

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Cloud_Hopper_TV commented
Have had this happen with multiple songs on multiple steams all from highly reputable artists, then some clown posts the copyright free music as their own on youtube and my Twitch streams get muted, absolutely ridiculous that there is no proper way to appeal it with the limited options. Just about ready to move to a different streaming platform entriely, ***** these clown enablers.
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nakiekitsunepuppy commented
The same thing has happened to my channel the last couple of days (and in previous months before) resulting from an artist named Nuematsu who does remixes of Nobuo Uematsu music from various Final Fantasy games, who can be found easily on the internet, and it is obvious that the artist is a remixer.
Of course I appealed the claims because it is very clearly fair use to play the original video game music when playing the game, but I find it very annoying that Twitch allows false claims, and has allowed this to occur for a long time, so this will be a recurring problem.
Twitch, this is a VERY serious matter. If you don't fix this, then I will very likely seek out another streaming platform, one who understands that the DMCA should not be abused.
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cakeisamadeupdrug commented
I think the reason Twitch doesn't do this is because it would be an acknowledgement of fraud, which would warrent a legal response via the courts.
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VixRyder commented
Found this post after looking around to see why a portion of my VOD containing the Mario World Castle music was muted. Apparently Madmal sampled the entire song with no changes from the original and it got flagged. It doesn't seem that I can even appeal it because technically it's in game audio that got flagged. I know this is probably going to go nowhere based on twitch's responses to this whole situation but it's something that's still happening into 2021.
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prankard commented
Just came to post, this is irritating. Streaming a lot of Super Metroid and now every video has the intro music section muted. This is due to a rapper sampling the original game in 'The Cannon of Samus (featuring Kenyattah Black) - Vast Aire'. This mutes everyone's introduction to their steam when playing the original game. This has been happening for over a year.
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OddtomSR commented
As a previous employee in the mass suing industry, fraud by the claimant is frighteningly prevalent in the industry as a whole, not just with copyright violations. I worked with credit card companies, and once we filed cases in the courts, it became the burden of the accused to prove innocence rather than the other way around. The courts that receive a high number of claims generally care more about things running smoothly than about whether or not claims are valid. If the paperwork is there, they will be accepted, regardless of whether there are errors or not. This is how the world of mass suing is.
The short answer is that Twitch can and should file claims against fraudulent charges in relevant cases. Realistically, however, given how Twitch has responded thus far- hurrying to cover its own butt at the cost of streamers- it doesn't seem like they would care enough about individual streamers to actually do this for two reasons: First, in the statement Twitch sent out today, there is no mention of what to do if the charges are fraudulent or even reference to the possibility of fraudulent charges, only that streamers should learn more about copyright law if they have been affected. Second, muting or deleting all affected channels is much easier and cheaper than responding to individual cases where copyright claims are fraudulent.
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Safetytrousers commented
For a very old tune, like an old folk melody, a tune by Bach or Mozart for example, that tune no longer is copyrighted. But if you were to make a recording of that tune, you own the mechanical copyright of that recording. There two types of music copyright, publishing and mechanical. Mechanical is the actual recording, publishing is the writing of the content, the way it goes.
When someone does a cover of a modern song they need the publishing permission to record it, and the only thing they would get paid for is the mechanical copyright of the recording. -
TankandSpank commented
Gee, if only they were already compensated for the deal they signed when they let the game use music.. oh wait......
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SpiritMuse commented
Yes! There are lots of claims by copyright trolls who don't actually own the copyright and there is currently no way to address this.
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cptdumplin commented
How the **** has this not been an option yet?
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martinashmusic commented
For the same reason, your system fails to work for either traditional or copyright-expired compositions. Someone may still own the copyright in a specific recording of a traditional folk tune, but that does NOT mean they own any rights over my, different, performance of that same tune. I have had a highlight muted because of this exact situation; a muted highlight from a live music stream is no use to anyone! And there is no adequate way of contesting the action on these grounds. Copyright in compositions and recordings is separate; get someone who knows the basics of the law to overhaul your systems for dealing with music copyright because they're laughably inadequate at present.
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TheWorstAmy commented
I recently had a GB Tetris stream get muted because the copyright bot's song IDing listed "Ikon Ringtones" as the owner of the song.
I can say with full confidence that "Ikon Ringtones" does NOT own Hirokazu Tanaka's 8-bit rendition of a Russian folk song. And that's been the problem for years - bad actors clowning around with copyright claims for video game music they don't own. Not only do establishments like "Ikon Ringtones" get away with it for using video game music as ringtone options, insignificant nobody DJs have also been known to do it when they sample music from a video game and then streamers get muted for nothing more than playing a video game.
It's high time Twitch allows us to appeal muted streams based on the supposed claimant clearly not owning the rights to the music, and puts more manual effort into identifying these bad actors and disqualifying them from further copyright claims without definitive proof that they are the owner of the copyrighted work.