Do not deprecate hosts.
There was a notice put out about hosts becoming deprecated next month.
This is an awful idea. Do not do this.
The reason given for doing it is clear and obvious deflection; it's false. No one with average viewership under like 6000 uses twitch chats as a community server; when someone is offline, that's it. Their attention is off the chat and elsewhere. The idea that hosts prevent interactions with streamers is complete bull.
Moreover, raids are not a direct replacement for hosts (most people don't even -know- this because this fact has been so thoroughly obfuscated,) because of the referral ID causing a viewer to not count to the raided channel for ad or partnership metrics. Hosting was an incredibly useful -community building tool- on twitch; you host into another channel, that user notes you down, they host into you and share their audience in a way that actually contributes useful numbers beyond "was a viewer". Raiding does not do this. Raiding is an anti-growth tool. Viewers might follow and check someone out again following a raid, but many are there primarily just because a streamer raided them over and have no interest in staying; hosts, because they required active interaction with the hosted channel were more likely to stay because it tested viewer interest.
Hosting was and still is an invaluable community tool. To remove it and not provide its actual functionality to raids is extremely anti-user.
Hello everyone! Thank you for coming together to bring us your feedback on Hosts. We made the decision to remove this feature because it consistently confuses viewers–particularly new viewers or those who are less familiar with Twitch–because they don’t realize the channel they visited is hosting another stream and also they cannot interact with the hosted streamer in chat.
We also hear your feedback and acknowledge the need for community building tools that help promote other streamers. We’ve recently introduced the following features that help you do that:
- We recently released a feature called shoutout that lets you promote another streamer’s channel in your chat and makes it easy for your viewers to follow that channel without leaving your stream. To initiate the shoutout during your stream, use the chat command “/shoutout [channel]” - viewers who do not follow the channel will see a pop-up with a follow button for that channel. If the streamer has an upcoming stream in their schedule, the shoutout will also highlight their next scheduled stream with a button to set a reminder to watch.
- Recommend another stream to viewers when you are offline by adding them to your Suggested Channels list in your channel settings (formerly known as your “Autohost list”). When their channel is live, their stream will appear in the carousel at the top of the page. You can also display your suggested streamers list in your streamer shelf.
We appreciate the feedback you’ve shared, and look forward to new suggestions that help your communities connect with one another.
Hosting is a feature that that helped to share communities that streamers enjoyed while they were offline. A massive hole has been left without it, especially as it relates to streamers who have schedules outside of your own! There are tons of amazing creators who we want to direct people to who are offline during the times that we can raid, but we were able to direct folks to using the hosting features.
While the shoutout feature is great, it is minimally different from capabilities that streamers have used bots to accomplish for years.
Having information on screen indicating that a host is happening - and potentially removing the ability to chat in that channel that is actively hosting and instead having that be a space to allow for a click through, would remove the "confusion" that is spoken about in this.
I only ever streamed once, purely because my old PC/internet set-up just couldn't cope with the demands of doing it so right now I'm just a viewer and supporter of a number of streamers. Regardless, I often hosted most of the ones I watched just to try to support them as much as I could, knowing that an extra voice and share might make some - albeit - small difference to them.
Not having viewers of my own means raiding would be pointless, so hosting really does make sense for people like myself.
I understand the decline response, but I think there were ways to keep hosting that would have still made it clear that a channel was being hosted. A prominent message across the top of the stream window saying 'so and so is offline but currently hosting 'channel' -> join the fun!' with an option to click onto the hosted channel would have easily explained the situation to viewers.
Raids are great for active passing of an audience when hype and viewership are high, but when already offline and/or trying to host a podcast raiding is an awkward and underwhelming process. I previously used hosting to display the podcasts I co-host on other channels in my own channel window. Shoutouts & suggested channels don't accomplish the same. As there's currently no way to connect other channels into your own as an extension of your brand, I'm forced to raid into it every time now even if I haven't been live previously.
I could also set autohosts for when I was out of town or promoting other channels even when afk. It was a much more relaxed and effective tool.
Please consider re-implementing it, thank you! :)
Hosting was the best way to help fellow streamers, especially marginialized creators. And it helped with engagement when not streaming. Raids are great, shout-outs are great, but hosting was the best way to get folks to share a stream to help build channels.
Bring back hosting. Raids are only effective for post stream networking/promotion. Hosting was an offline tool to promote and build up other channels.
I didn't realize hosting wasn't a thing anymore, but, it absolutely should be!
Bring back hosts! As a small streamer I don’t always feel comfortable raiding larger streams! Hosting let’s me introduce my audience to others while allowing me to feel more confident about entering these streams!
I miss host alerts 🥺 It made it fun for my chat to promote me without asking them to spend a dime, and it made for another cute alert to have 💖
Hosting was a great way to share my community with others, especially when I'm not live. Taking this away has likely impeded growth on the platform, unlike the expectation that raiding is the way.
It would be great to be able to share a stream I enjoy without having to be live first. Also folks get into raid ruts, only raiding the same people, so their viewers aren't getting sent to new places to hang out and again; it requires streamers to be live to share other creators to their community.
TL;DR, bring back hosting and let us have auto hosting. Maybe with some clarification that the channel you are watching is being hosted by [channel name]
Bring Back The Ability To Host Other Channels!!
Despite being 'closed', this idea keeps getting comments, more than newly suggested ones that catch on. It's kind of ridiculous to refuse to acknowledge it beyond regurgitating the same excuse.
This is your reminder that this is now the *second*-hottest proposal on this site.
And @darkstorm and @Twitch want to insist that this isn't an issue that warrants further thought or investigation.
It would be so cool if the place we raided to was also being hosted on our channel again- bring back the host feature please.
Many people are getting left in "the void" when we raid, so now as a streamer we have to shout-out where we are going before we raid for those that twitch leaves behind (another topic, another time). You say that your "market research" has shown hosting to not be useful/easy to use, but streamers large and small and viewers across twitch are clamoring to bring it back and having a tough time without it, we are telling you it worked and was easy to use. It has degraded the sense of community we created with it, and it has made being a streamer more difficult.
Over 2k streamers and viewers asked to bring it back on a single thread here, and declining it with the very reasons we are consistently telling you are non-issues only makes twitch look like they are paying lip service with this ideas forum. If you're going to take away features that help our community without any real responses to our feedback, then don't ask for our feedback. Bring back hosting please.
i liked this feature :/
Used to watch (promote / check out) other's streams together with friends in our small chatroom(s) of 3-10 people
As in not to dive into new chat group with their rules (as well as follow / sub modes) but stay in comfy environment of our circle.
/shoutout is not a replacement - you can not use it while offline, the time when /host was used the most
Hi. It's been a while since you removed hosting, and I want to point out something removing hosting revealed. Just how janky your raid system is. People get left behind all the time. I now have to shout out who I intend to raid, to make sure people can catch up. And I'm not a big streamer, so if it's happening to my tiny community, imagine what's happening to people with larger communities.
So I'll break it down simply.
With hosts: You click where you want to go to join everybody, because the raid got lost, but you can see where they went.
Without Hosts: You are left in a nascient void of nothing, and likely leave the website because you have no direction of where to go to be with your friends.
Ahhhhh no! We need the hosting back! The hosting brought people to our page, even newbies figured out eventually how to watch the show and be in the actual room! But hosting brought the regulars to your room and their followers to your room. Raiding is of no help once you raid out the person who went off is not even hosting where you raided too. There is never a 100% of the previous streamers audience raided audience raided over!
Shouting out does not help! Followers do not equal viewers, because twitch does not 100%notifiy all your followers when you go live. People found you because of those whom they followed was hosting your page.
Look at the analytics on the DJ side of twitch, Im watching other partner dj's numbers suffer since hosting was taking away! Dj's who would have 100's of folks in they room now playing to a room of 20-40 people! Hosting was the key we got those there to host and it kept more viewers coming in the room!
No one is looking at your recommended streamers list, this is not how viewers work on twitch, if I follow you and your not on im not going to see who you recommend I watch. But if I follow you and see you are hosting a streamer I will go in that room to hangout because you are there! Hosting was how we helped each other grow and get exposure to other streamers. This new method literally is killing streamers!
So please bring hosting back! Those of us not streaming daily with 1k or more in normal viewers in our rooms are taking a huge hit on viewership!
WE need Hosting back!! Since hosting has went away on the "DJ" side of twitch we are all suffering huge on the numbers, Im a partner and im looking at other partner dj's who once had 100+ now down to 20's and 30's! The hosting was the key to bringing new and the regulars to our show! Without hosting we are dying over here and some have decide to leave the platform all together. We have worked so hard to build our small communities and we rely so heavily on each guest in our room hosting the show to bring more viewers that now we have a void.
Your notification feature has never worked correctly! I have over 7500 followers and only 5% are being reached with the notification.
Please put the hosting back on! A year worth of work is going up in smoke since the hosting is gone, my average and other dj's averages are tanking!
Hey Twitch, I see you bringing back the front page panel for when YOU host people on the site.
Perhaps go a bit further than that and bring the rest of it back for everyone else?
Short story about all this, I was watching a stream, got up to get some water, stretch my legs, human maintenance stuff. When I came back, a different stream was playing. I had no idea what happened to the previous stream & was really confused. I had to go to the VOD and check the end to realize the streamer I was watching finished early while I was up.
With hosting, I would have seen the chat say goodbye & that the streamer has hosted over to another channel. With raiding, I return to a stream that's not the one I left, and no indication as to why. The system you have implemented has made the situation more confusing. It is actively failing at the goals you have set. Please bring back hosting.