Twitch category name collision
Currently two (or more) games with the exact same name (usually reboots) share the same category in Twitch. And all the cover art, description, tags are taken from only one of the games. This usually means that the other game(s) effectively completely lacks a page on twitch, despite being a completely different game and having unique gameplay. Can something be done about this?
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optillusiongames commented
New colision for While Waiting. I'm working for the puzzle game (yellow logo)
- Puzzle game : https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/while-waiting/videos/all
- Horror game https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/while-waiting-1/videos/allAs a CM, I've noticed that some of my streamers are showing up under this incorrect game category:
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/while-waiting-1/videos/allThank you for your help!
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GMP__ commented
Just caught up on my thread and wow, so much spam about Dwarf Fortress. Anyone with reading comprehension should have realized this issue is about literally the opposite of what Dwarf Fortress had. I am glad that one is sorted but don't let the Dwarftards' replies fool you into thinking the issue I reported is sorted. The name collision issue is still a thing. It's so annoying that such a trivial thing requires a revolution to sort and on a case by case basis.
For anyone wondering how this works:
IGDB has a database of games. Their database has a unique ID for every game. Their job is to provide data via API to their partners, including Twitch. Previously Twitch had a partnership GiantBomb. This issue was present back then as well and it will persist even if they move to another data source. The reason? It is upto Twitch to decide how to process the data. Some genius Twitch dev decided that the title of the game was unique enough to identify it. Their whole URL system is based on this assumption, it just converts the game title to kebab case. The only way they are solving the issue currently is by manually mapping a custom URL (for example by appending the release year) with the appropriate IGDB page, when there is enough outrage from a specific game's community. The permanent solution will involve a change in the structure of the URL itself, which feels like twitch is not prioritizing on even though it should be the trivial task. -
Mario1080p commented
Today's another case of this very issue. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door literally has the same exact title and now have a split viewerbase on launch day. At the time of writing the older one has 16K viewers while the remake with a different cover and fewer tags has 9K.
To me this is such a huge bummer as it hinders a remake/remasters discoverability. At the same time I don't want the older category to be erased with all the videos and clips over the years being removed.
I just wish for a clean merger without older content wiped. It always bothered me when a remake/remaster has a slightly different subtitle, but Paper Mario is a recent example where I expected everyone just used the old category because of their subtitle being the exact same.
A quick solution I can think of is the removal of the 2024 link and just change the cover of the older category like how live service games changes covers every season.
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PonPonTheBonBon commented
I put together an image of what the selection on Twitch could be like: https://i.imgur.com/JDtfR4d.png
This would help clarify which game is which, similar to like Kitaru and others have suggested.
For the URL (the ID) of each game on Twitch, just add the IGDB ID at the start of the URL just like Uservoice, so for example:
/category/tetris--1 -> /category/8197-Tetris
/category/tetris-1994 -> /category/236647-Tetris -
Kitaru commented
The Tetris series is a particularly perfect test case for this issue; there is a huge number of entirely different games simply titled "Tetris" without any additional subtitle. A few have cover art that is not just similar, but identical: Nintendo's series of Tetris games for Game Boy, NES, and SNES all have the same logo and key art. This has been splitting the streamers/viewership of the NES Tetris community, as they've been inadvertently clicking a different category with no text available to differentiate them.
This also applies to games with significant remakes/remasters: looking at a dropdown for Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, Super Mario RPG, etc., it's similarly difficult (or sometimes nigh impossible) to know which category corresponds to which version of the game. Doom is a fun situation where remakes/remasters and reboots all are shown alongside each other.
A UX treatment for game categories similar to the one used on Giant Bomb Wiki would be very useful for differentiating identically-titled games. Something along these lines:
Title (Year) [primary/secondary platforms + n more]
examples:
Tetris (1989) [GB]
Tetris (1989) [NES]
Tetris (2009) [PS3]
Doom (1993) [PC, Mac, + 16 more]
Doom (2016) [PC, PS4, + 3 more] -
Fry4711 commented
Ein weiteres Spiel mit diesem Problem:
Filamenthttps://www.igdb.com/games/filament--1
https://www.igdb.com/games/filamentVielen Dank
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akawshi commented
name collisions below
https://www.igdb.com/games/lover
https://www.igdb.com/games/lover--1thank you for the service
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Adaramm commented
Dauntless seems to be shown twice in Twitch. I am a streamer of the game and others are misclicking the false category of Dauntless. I have even seen it for the new game Nightingale.
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8BitCrafty commented
Complete agree with this needing to be taken care of. I've been streaming a game called Shrapnel, the FPS web3 game, but after my stream is complete the platform automatically switches to another Shrapnel game category (something with a cannon for the picture). Very frustrating when trying to gain awareness and eyeballs on a new up and coming game that I'm playing pre-alpha stage and it's not categorizing correctly on the platform.
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biigcomfy commented
I'd like to echo a report for the name collision of Shadowrun (2007). Shadowrun (2007) is an FPS game, whereas the only Shadowrun category displayed on twitch is the pen and paper game. There is a sizeable community that plays and streams Shadowrun (2007) every day.
Without this collision addressed, we may not be able to reach new & interested audiences appropriately. I'm sure the die hard pen & paper Shadowrun community would also appreciate us not crashing their category!
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IamBloodBrother commented
I'm here to back up @3MERGx and @FF5Ninja's comments.
The 'This Is Shadowrun' discord community has over 3500+ members, and more are coming through all the time. We all play the PC/XBOX cross play 2007 Shadowrun.
This collision needs to be fixed so that we can stream to the correct crowd. Thank you!
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3MERGx commented
Following up FF5Ninja’s request, we’re hoping Twitch sees this and helps us by manually fixing the name collision for the Shadowrun FPS. Adding the year it released “2007” to a new game or “FPS” to differentiate it from the pen & paper/RPG games.
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FF5Ninja commented
I'd like to report a category name collision for Shadowrun (2007), an FPS game. Currently, the only Shadowrun category is the pen and paper game. There is a sizeable community that plays and streams Shadowrun (2007) every day.
It is already in IGDB and just needs to be separated into its own category on Twitch.
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Fry4711 commented
Hello there,
i like to play and stream this game on twitch but if i choose the categorie it always switch to the other game, named FILAMENT. (https://www.igdb.com/games/filament--1)
So the VOD appears in the wrong categorie...Maybe you have another idea for separating those two games?!
Thany You.
Greets
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KGrabowski_ commented
Hi, I would like to report name collision for the game "Serum". There are two games in the category section with the same name and people (but also twitch app) are making mistakes to choose the right one when categorize their gameplay. Twitch app even redirect from a good cover to a bad game category. That Serum mobile game is not active, now it is a premiere of PC survival game Serum and that's the one players are streaming.
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Babyleyd commented
same, when i take clip, it shows the first game not the game im playing . Even though i change my stream info categories etc., it doesnt work . it would be nice to have categories setting in the clip menu.
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Goldenboy_Ledd commented
Having the same problem recently with Inscryption: I'm playing the original game but on the VODs it links the demake one with the same name and it's impossible to fix this. I suggested a change on the demake's name on IGDB but it has been declined.
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chauden commented
How did the same game end up in multiple categories in the first place? That doesn't even make sense, how weird.
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wisepranker commented
I've voted but it's done? Heck yeah, I was nearly helping!
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CallumeCat commented
Heck yeah! 👇