Twitch category name collision
Currently two (or more) games with the exact same name (usually reboots) share the same category in Twitch. And all the cover art, description, tags are taken from only one of the games. This usually means that the other game(s) effectively completely lacks a page on twitch, despite being a completely different game and having unique gameplay. Can something be done about this?
@ponponthebonbon I have been suggesting this for years to no avail. Funnily enough, the URL for user profiles in this very website seems to follow this exact same pattern of <id>-<name>, lol.
I had the idea before, but a much better idea for Twitch is just adding the ID from IGDB ... because my idea of adding the year will cause links to break if the year changes (when more info comes out).
Take the idea from how UserVoice has the ID of the post and category before the name in the URL.
Using the suggestion from before, using Sonic the Hedgeghog, you will get:
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/3192-Sonic%20the%20Hedgehog (the original, ID: 3192)
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/88912-Sonic%20the%20Hedgehog (the remaster, ID: 88912)
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/6231-Sonic%20the%20Hedgehog (the 2006-version, ID: 6231)
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/198248-Sonic%20the%20Hedgehog (the ad for the film, ID: 198248)
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/207208-Sonic%20the%20Hedgehog (the C64-port, ID: 207208)
The IDs on IGDB are very uneven in length, but it ensures that the game has a unique URL that never changes, and can be applied to all categories across Twitch, without having to do a case-by-case basis.
When searching for a category, the year is not listead, but including that would help a lot as well. I think it would also help a lot if consoles were listed instead of the number of followers and watchers of the category, personally at least.
So typing "Sonic the Hedgehog" would give:
Sonic the Hedgehog (1991)
GEN • X360 • iOS • Wii • Win • PS3
Sonic the Hedgehog (2013)
And • XONE • PS4 • iOS • PS5 • Win • NS • XSX
Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)
X360 • PS3 • Wii
Sonic the Hedgehog (2020)
iOS • Web • And
Sonic the Hedgehog (2021)
Some notes would be if there's a port, it has a separate ID on IGDB but isn't included as a separate entry on Twitch, and could be merged with the category, which is the case of Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) ID 6231, and the Wii-port ID 264886 (which was cancelled, which Twitch could take into consideration too). But then also the abbreviations must sometimes take languages into consideration, such as "GEN" would be for en-US only, but "SMD" for every other language.
Are there two different issues here? The OP mentions two games being combined into a single category so you literally can't find one of them. There's another problem, which might be related, where two games with the same name each have their own category (and page), but when you try to select one of them as your "Category" when editing your stream info, it ends up selecting the other one with the same name.
You can see this with the name "Graviton" mentioned in an earlier post. If you edit your Stream Info category and select the Graviton with box art (not the gray placeholder art), it will actually select the one with placeholder art, which is the wrong game.
Overgrowth (2017) gets overriden no matter what by Overgrowth (2018)
Night Watch (2005) gets overriden no matter what by Night Watch (2020)
In both cases it's a completely different game by a different developer.
And in both cases there's no workaround to select the correct category.
Had this problem with our game, Saturnalia. It seems like they were separated into:
Although for some reason I cannot seem to be able to follow the 2022 version.
I've run into this multiple times recently, with "The Room" and "Filament". The one I'm playing isn't the first in the list, and I can't select the one I'm playing.
We have same issue about "Guardians"
This is the game which made in 1994, https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/guardians
But this is our one. https://www.igdb.com/games/guardians--1
Can we do something about it pls ?
This has become even more important now, with the addition of the "view on IGDB" button.
Name Collision from ratchet & clank: up your arsenal and the remaster for ps3.
R&C 1 and 2 seem to be fine, just this one is redirecting to the same page even though one has -2012 appended to its url
One has 100 ish follows and one has over 20k followers, can only select the one with 100 followers. merge or rename one, i think one represents the remaster from 2012
That's awesome they're trying to find a solution. Hopefully they can do that with Shadowrun (2007) and Shadowrun the rpg
It seems like Twitch is now appending the game's release year in cases where there are name collision, similar to how they fixed the God of War category. For example, https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/levelhead-2019 and https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/levelhead now redirect to the same category (the game that actually has a Twitch presence). However, I notice all versions of the Sonic the Hedgehog category redirect to the 1991 game (compare https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/sonic-the-hedgehog-1991 with https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/sonic-the-hedgehog-2021), so the issue isn't completely fixed, but at least it seems they're working on a solution.
I am unable to change category to the correct Dreamscaper game w/ 2.7 followers keeps reverting to one with 67 follows. This issue persists on Obs, Twitch website edit stream info, and unbelievably when i click on the correct link while browsing games on twitch. they all revert to the other game with exact same name. Please fix this, I dont see how clicking one category is leading me to another one. No rhyme or reason for this at all.
As the title says. These two games are very distinct despite having the same name and for years Twitch has had them as the same category as the 1991 game. IGDB lists these two games seperately however the Twitch Category selection does not. Ratchet and Clank saw a similar problem and was fixed by seperating "Ratchet and Clank (2002)" from "Ratchet and Clank" (the PS4 2016 reboot), so a similar solution would be suitable for Sonic the Hedgehog (2006).
Twitch should consider adding the year to the link of the category. So currently there's https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Sonic%20the%20Hedgehog which is merging every title of the same name.
For example the year could be added at the start so every title starts with 4 digits:
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/1991-Sonic%20the%20Hedgehog (the original)
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/2013-Sonic%20the%20Hedgehog (the remaster)
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/2006-Sonic%20the%20Hedgehog (the 2006-version)
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/2020-Sonic%20the%20Hedgehog (the ad for the film)
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/2021-Sonic%20the%20Hedgehog (the C64-port)
Then Twitch could also list the year of the game when searching for a game, and also let users include the year in the search. For unknown years, that could be 0000 in the link, and ???? in the list.
Currently when you insert Sonic the Hedgehog to set a category of your stream, you get a list of many options, but none with years. Having years included would help tell them apart.
The year of release would be fetched from IGDB, just like how the titles and covers are fetched from IGDB. The old legacy links without the year could redirect to the one it was defaulting to in the past. In this case, 1991-Sonic%20the%20Hedgehog
Also having this problem with our game Parallel. Has anybody found a workaround? IGDB just rejected my request to change the name to Parallel (2023) to avoid naming collision.
This is happening to our game "Dreamscaper" ... It keeps being redirected to a 14 year-old RPG Maker project that never actually released.
Seriously it has been over a year. I want to stream the 2008 Prince of Persia but it doesn't even show because of the original.
Ran into this issue with Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon, which is two very different games on Nintendo 64 and Game Boy Color with the same title. Selecting the N64 one didn't work as it would just default to the GBC category, which also has substantially less followers and would potentially negatively impact viewership and browsing.
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