Don't Punish New Streamers
SO for a new person like myself to stream with 1 viewer for hours just having fun it cripples my ability to get affiliate because i have streamed for 80 hours with one viewer getting to 3 average viewers means I would have to get over 10 viewers to bring the average up within a 30 day period I wish it was based on viewers per stream rather then viewers per hour
I can relate, I have been playing video games, since I was 4 years old, now 30 years old.
I had a channel in 2007 on YouTube that had upward of 100k views per video, I had a 92 part Legend of Zelda ocarina of time playthrough.
It was deleted by Nintendo for copyright in 2010. I had lots more by that time on the channel, but the whole channel was deleted by youtube. " The channel was also called n64mastertut
When that channel got deleted, I started a fps channel in 2010, and it has done terrible no one cares about fps gameplay.
I created my stream account in 2008. I have watched a lot of small streamers who are still big today, it's just not the same process it use to be.
Only the small streamers from back in the day are insanely big.
another thing is, I always see some streamers stuck at 20 viewers and it's been that way for years. "viewbotting is a thing and streamers get away with it.
I use to do 12 to 20 hour streams back in 2012, I did gain viewers playing pay day 2 in 2013/2014, they left and never came back, I quit in 2017 due to trolls harassing my channel they found personal information and started prank phone calling people/family members to find out my locations to swatt me.
I use to play a lot of csgo with viewers I would carry lobbies, I had solo que games on my main account and would only pay with viewers on the Alt account.
I stopped playing csgo around 2017 when hackers started to invade the game.
I told blizzard they had a hacking problem on MW warzone a month the game was released, they would not fix the problem or refund me and threated to ban me. if I kept making tickets about asking for my money back due to the cheaters they had on the game.
I bought the game never played the camping and only was interested in Mp, and that was ruined from day 1.
I went from getting a average 20 to 30 kill csgo lobbys 2012-2015 to 4 or 10 kills a game or getting shut down by people using aimbot or auto shooters on csgo.
Yes people can cheat on console, the streamers who say you can't cheat console are delusional some console players are 100% using something with scripts to cheat.
black ops 4 was littered with people using no recoil scrips and aimbots with a USB dongle.
Even the early games on xbox 360 had people running hard console cheats.
I have been playing these games a long time to know the difference in skill level and a person cheating.
I have called out lots of players for cheating and they normally get vac bans on there account 1-2 years later.
To keep this on track there has to be something done to fix the issue with discoverability, viewers can't find new streamers or don't even want to watch new streamers, when they do it's to late, they already just want to quit and stop streaming at that point, even YouTube has bad discoverability.
This platform is bullshitty.... it's controlled opposition. I use royalty free beats in my background and they call it copyright.... this is STUPID... 100% stupid.
I do see some folks are saying that I am not following advice. I try to do my best. I am truthfully grateful I have some time to do streams, but it seems like I would have to quit my actual job to try and have time to stream with my tight schedule. However, I do not hold anything against Twitch for showing new streamers some goals to follow, I just wish they could be less restrictive.
Why Do my viewers say I have 15 but twitch says i have 3 this is so unfair Please fix this I want to be able to stream but you are making impossible. so many people for so long telling you about this problem and it seems you guys just don't want to fix it also, my notifications not going through to my followers
From the sounds of the many of these comments in this and others about the same thing people just want an easy in...They do not want to work for the achievement it seems some just think all they need to do is hit the start stream button and people will come in especially thinking if they are playing the latest game etc.
What do you bring to the table??? Are you networking, going to other streams meeting new people in your catergory? Are you raiding that one or 2 people to somebody or just stopping stream? Whether your raiding with 1 or 100 it doesn't matter it gets your name out there to that streamer and they will either shout you out or come check you out I know i do......
This mentality of let us have it for nothing just slaps those who actually worked for this affiliate achievement in the face in my opinion all because some just either not willing to take advice or just simply have the wrong mindset.
I see dozens of people here posting that they streamed 250, 300, 350+ hours to their 60 followers and only have a 1.2 average. Have you listened to ACTUAL advice? If you are actually SERIOUS about growing as a streamer, listen.
1) Stop doing 6+ hour streams to 1 viewer. It's KILLING YOUR AVERAGE. Just for a month or two, do 2 hour streams, 3-4 times a week. You WILL see an improvement in numbers. When you hit affiliate, stream for 34 hours for all I care.
2) Stop streaming EVERY DAY. Go outside. Interact with people. I'm not just saying this. You go out and do stuff, you then have INTERESTING things to talk about on your stream. People leave streams because there is no entertainment value. If you are inside every day, you are missing out on CONTENT you can entertain people with.
3) You like playing Minecraft? Find other small Minecraft streamers, watch them. Chat to them. Follow them. It PAYS OFF. That's proper networking, not spamming your link in a Facebook group every time you go live.
4) Patience. Wait for your 7 hour, 1 average streams to drop off the 30 day period. as they drop away, your average will increase.
Of course, if you are a CASUAL streamer, you don't care about numbers and affiliate, so feel free to ignore!
I mean there is some kind of "work around" if I would call that. When you have already reguraly people watching you. You just need stream for as minimal amount as possible with most viewers. I mean if you get most viewers around time 10-12. Just stream on that time +30 min or something to raise your average viewers. And after reaching Affialate milestone you can go back to streaming as much as you want. (Sorry for my grammar).
I agree totally.
I've given up on being an affiliate because of this requirement. It does not register or recognize everyone watching my streams. I've advertised, sent emails to people, posted on Twitter, FB Instagram and still this requirement is elusive for me.
Couldn't agree more this sucks!
We are being punished. Twitch EXPECTS you to get 3 people to stay in your channel for exactly 7 hours if you are trying to "beat/affiliate". Impossible w/o cheating. I've been streaming on multiple accounts over the last 5 years, and I've NEVER gotten 3/hr for 7 hours straight legit. And I won't, as I am a CASUAL Streamer, who streams in the EARLY AM. Yes, tell me again how networking helps. I've used Twitter, Insta, FB friends, FB groups, all to no avail. Yet my channel can be constantly bombarded by bots spamming "their" account holders bs, links to fake bs, whispers from aholes saying "pay to win", so on so forth, and NOT ONE of them count, as they are only in the channel for 3 seconds. So, wt.f does a casual, early am, R/L job having person supposed to do to get affiliate, w/o having their account thrashed? Yes, I do know, I had an account that you Pistachio, "keep" streaming. That account was up to 300 hours a month, and @ .1/3 Active Viewer count. THIS is what we want fixed. Twitch's math has to be "cheated" to get around it. Some can cheat, others(women who look good) can beat it quickly. Those of us ugly, casual, early am, off "prime" time, can't even get 1 view... Let alone, if you're a CONSOLE user(ie. no cam, no PC bs, no "perks"), it's even worse. Need I get into that??? Twitch needs to rethink this....I mean come on. I've burned 3 accounts into the dirt, and my newest is going down swiftly also....
Just keep streaming. You’re not being “punished”. Although it might be hurting your viewing average temporarily, think of it in the long term. Streaming more often and more frequently will always help. You might not make affiliate that month thats okay - but that viewer might tell their friends and then next stream you’ll get 2. Then 3, etc etc.
I think the point a lot of commenters are missing is that it is annoying for new streamers to have to choose between streaming a lot for fun, or only streaming when they can optimize their views.
Another possible solution would be if twitch averaged the viewers in the busiest 30 (or another number) hours of streaming to meet the qualifications.
facts I've had many 3 avg viewer streams but that past one view streams just ruin the avg
yea getting to an average of 3 is super annoying bc instead of counting per stream, it counts the average in the 40 PLUS HOURS I'VE STREAMED
So, hit all marks required for the month. Had multiple Twitch Emails saying I had "3, 5, 7, yada yada" Viewer counts. Yet when I open up my dashboard and check, it still says I only have 1.5/3....WTF???!! Why is this so broken for PS4 console users???
So much this, I have streamed 25 days in a row hit 11 viewers earlier today and can't get affiliate because I have an average of 1.72 viewers.
Tienes toda la razón, actualizar los requerimientos para hacer afiliado seria buena idea.
muy muy muy de acuerdo, en mi caso es algo parecido y ahora tengo que esperar una semana para que se me quite un mal stream que tuve a ver si ya califico para el afiliado. https://www.twitch.tv/poxeroo
i completely agree with this