Getting affiliate should be about getting more followers and not more viewers
set the affiliate program just to 50 or 75 followers because twitch has a massive problem with correct viewer count, I have had like 20 people watching my stream at one time before, all chatting at the same time, and it only counted for like 2 or 3 of them.
Think honestly most here do not either know how averages work or how the viewer count actually works.....Here it is in a nutshell the longer you stream the lower your average will become so if your streaming hours upon hours with 2 - 3 people it is never going to work....As soon as you hit your 3 viewers stop stream start again the next day rinse repeat. Always have your stream summary open to check what your current average is once it hits 3 then stop the stream easy. I did this and was affiliate within a week. I have also made affiliate using the same strategy for streamraiders which requires you to have a 20 viewer average over 14 days .
As for those that are saying they have 20 to 30 chatting and not getting the average i think they aren't being very honest about their numbers i can garantee the viewer count is not that broken.
Remember twitch only counts the first 2 tabs opened by a viewer if they have yours open as the 3rd then it simply does not count. Also mute the tab not the player.
I do not wish this to change as it just promotes follow for follow if the average is removed.
same here i had 4 for my whole stream today and gave me an average of 2 viewers you viewer counter is broken or your intentionally holding us back either way would love to see this fixed if it continues im sure some of us with legal representation will be using it to solve the problem ourselves
My last 4 streams claim I had 0 viewer average even though the bar chart on the same page shows 1-3 viewers during the whole streams. How could the average be zero when the average viewers chart isn't zero? Something is wrong.
Si esos espectadores te entraron a la mitad de stream...pues te hace la media de la mitad y mitad. Las raids no cuentan para la media pero si para los espectadores máximos.
Infatti mi sembra giusto che l'affiliazione dovrebbe riguardare più i follower che gli spettatori ed è giusto che twitch ha un grosso problema con il conteggio corretto degli spettatori , io un volta avevo circa 50 utenti in chat che mi guardvavano e twitch mi diveca che avevo solo 1 spettatore
My gods why do people have so much dificulty affiliating. The algorythm is simply a numbers bot. When I came over from FaceIdiot and sick of Follow4Follow morons jumping in your stream jacking up your numbers, and hoping you will do the same for them. Well in Twitch it is the opposite you need 6-10 friends and 1 hour a day for a week. Voila ..... Affiliation!. Okay I did it the hard way, I spent a month streaming 12 hour streams every day, ruining my chances, but seriously after I worked out where I had gone wrong, and spent another month getting my hours back in check. I was Affiliated in 1 week!. So come on, stop complaining at Twitch for unfair math, Dumb math yes, but unfair nope!.
It should be both. I think the reqs for affiliate are far too little imo since YouTube requires 10,000 hours of watch time and 1000 followers before a channel gets paid. I think the affiliate reqs should be doubled for Twitch channels to 5 average viewers and at least 100 followers since it's easy to cheat your way to 3 average viewers.
The reason this idea won’t work is because then everyone will be just doing follow for follow. If you get the follows but don’t have any viewers except for yourself, then ad revenue will be low as well as any other potential growth. Best thing to do is to market yourself accordingly, everywhere and anywhere (not on others streams) and request people pull your stream up first and keep you tabbed. As well as if they are comfortable to type in chat once every so often.
But as far as twitch doing away with viewer counts, that will never happen. Active viewers is how twitch gets paid for ads. Adtrackers and such. If no one watches the ad, then twitch doesn’t get paid, and in turn, the streamer.
I'm having the same problem I thought it was my device but it's now I had 3 people for defo In my chat and it was only counting 1 my viewers is on 0.2 but I have always had atleast 1 person in my stream so I don't understand how it can be so low
Estuve stremeando una banda de tiempo 2 horas con 8 personas viendo y comentado y no me sumo nadaaaaaaaa la media
Viewer Count should be the same number of people in chat, because thats what it should be, even if someone isn't chatting, they should be included, unless of course they are a bot account then they can be excluded if they're verified through Twitch ie; Streamlabs, StreamElements, Nightbot, etc...
I also had an issue with viewer count the other day,so I decided to stream the next day. By then the problem was fixed. I could have been stubborn and continued to stream/make myself upset as I watch my average drop but I let it go because at that point if I continue to stream knowing something is wrong, it literally becomes my fault.
I'm not an affiliate, but this idea that "If I can't get it, it's twitches fault" is a very lazy take. I have a 2.7 viewer average and it's literally the only thing keeping me from applying to be an affiliate. I could get upset and come complain but all it does is make me want to improve. If I don't get affiliate it's nobody's fault but my own.
Exactly! I just streamed for six and a half hrs yesterday with three or more viewers the whole time, and my view count to make it to affiliate went down. smdh, This requirement and whoever controlling is clearly biased to certain streamers.
Needing a viewer count average prevents me from streaming. I get more viewers when I stream on the weekend or at night compared to streaming in the morning. I only get 1 or 2 viewers in the morning; which drops my average. This makes me not want to stream in the morning at all.
The viewer count it's not consistant, so I agree to that, often have people chatting during my streams and the counter shows way less than the people that actually is, one of the biggest mistakes on this platform. The unconsistency on the view counts it's because of the platform.
Here's the thing. To all the people saying that it should stay as average viewers, I would be somewhat fine with that if the viewer count was even close to accurate but it's not. If they fixed that, a lot more channels would make affiliate and deserve it. This is what the OP was talking about.
On the other hand, even with that part fixed, there is also a straight math problem with using an average. To actually reach this goal if things were tracking correctly, the math points to you being better off streaming less and only during peak hours at least until you reach affiliate (unless you want to get to partner). I stream all my games because I want to stream gaming content but most of the time, I stream to 1 or 2 viewers because I play late at night on the west coast. Late night streamers on the east coast have an advantage because part of their late night time is still prime time for many parts (if in NA). This seems unfair and counter productive. Why not add in or factor in all the views your videos get overall when you are not streaming. A lot of my audience seems to watch my videos at different hours than when I actually stream. I have a day job and kids so my streaming times are limited but I am up late so I still have no problem making a good amount of gaming content that quite a few people are watching (I've already made it to 500 hours and last month I had 400 Views mostly from NA).
One other point is that most of the channel building systems are gated behind the Affiliate wall. Why can't non-affiliate channels use loyalty points and have a few icons to entice viewers to follow them and help them get to affiliate?
This could work however, it would make it a lot easier to buy affiliate then. All you would need is some fake followers. The active viewer count just proves that a) you didn't buy them. And b) you haven't been streaming for two years and just so happen to get 50 followers over time but not actually earn it.
Ew. No. This ain’t it.
The Viewer Count is active if they turn your volume down and minimize the window it doesn't count the viewer. So Just have it open