Return auto host to "live" view
Rollback the changes to auto-hosts that make them not appear in the "live" view of the channel page. It effectively removes all usefulness from auto-hosts by forcing users to seek out the creator being auto-hosted rather than seeing it by default.
We and many other creators have already seen how this negatively impacts our viewership and discoverability.
Auto-hosts have the potential to function as a community building tool that leads to a more supportive and less competitive environment. The recent change to auto-hosts completely destroys that potential.
Thanks for kicking off this conversation! Hoping we can provide a bit more context for why we decided to make this change. While manual hosts will still appear in the live view and channel carousel, we made the decision to have auto-hosts appear only in the channel carousel going forward.
As part of our ongoing research and development for the offline channel page, we conducted a number of experiments over the past year to pinpoint what was most effective in streamers using their channels to enable discovery of other streamers. This includes things like auto-hosts, manual hosts, and raids.
Auto-hosts in live view specifically were found to be confusing for new viewers, and did not result in viewers sticking around to watch the channel. We made this change to reflect viewer habits, and ultimately to prioritize manual hosts that see significantly improved discoverability.
We conducted another experiment to compare a personalized auto-host list versus the “random” order auto-host list which resulted in improved watch time on newly discovered channels, and even the ability for streamers to give more discoverability to more streamers. Because of this, we replaced the “random” setting with the new personalized setting. Now, when you select the personalized option, you can have a larger auto-host list without putting newer additions to the list at a disadvantage based on the default order.
This makes no sense. It was working well before. I'd rather watch friends of friends streams than random people offered on the left (or main page) as my priority, and I would like for my audience to be offered my friend's streams according to my auto host list like before without having to be around to manually host them.
I have come across so many more streams through auto-hosts and raids than anything else on this platform. To disable this and claim it's for the better is incorrect and a disservice to the small streamers. Or is it so that you could push the new feature where streamers can pay to boost their stream?
When I was new to Twitch, auto-hosts weren't confusing. It took me to a page I wanted to see and when I saw they were not live, I followed and then usually checked out the host stream. So no, I didn't stay on the host page, but instead CLICKED THROUGH TO GO TO THE ACTUAL HOSTED STREAM. So duh, no one is staying around to watch the host through the offline stream, they're going to the hosted stream directly!
To modify an appropriate Nick Fury quote:
"I recognize that the Council has made a decision. But given that it’s a stupid-a** decision, I’ve elected to make sure you know it's a stupid-a** decision."
This is crazy Twitch Mouse, we are all a community of streamers / creators that support one another and this platform. You shutting down this user voice post by BetweenTwoGays is doing a disservice to everybody. At the end of all my streams, I thanked everyone of my supporters that host / auto-host using YOUR "Hosting You" in YOUR Twitch dashboard. Why put that there if we can't use it properly?
Can you host me? So I can see you in Twitch's "Hosting You" because Twitch broke the auto-hosting feature that doesn't show you or anybody up in Twitch's " Hosting You "!
You are making no sense by not hearing out creators. You are hurting us!
Oh wait this is YOUR platform not ours.... What was I thinking?! @@
One more thing from:
Quote "How Hosting Can Help You Grow
Getting your peers to autohost can pay off big. We expect you to see roughly 10% growth in minutes watched if you get 10 of your peers to autohost you. As you would expect, each additional channel auto hosting you helps, and bigger channels help more than smaller channels.
When you are hosted by someone else you will see a notification in your chat and on your dashboard telling you who just started hosting you and how many viewers they connected you to. "
So I guess 10% is now 0%?
I had 35+ streamers auto-hosting me which drove a lot of new viewers my way..... now that's done as well as the 2 teams on on where we can't have our own suggested streamers AND our teammates auto-hosted. What a sham. All in the efforts to make it harder for Affiliates to become Partners. Not to mention that Twitch can't count.... where I have double the viewers on my chat list than the number they show..... EVERY stream.
How dare you delete our user voice which while related to this issue is a different request. How dare you stifle free speech of disenfranchised creators while letting racism and bigotry run rampant on your platform.
Twitch is a morally bankrupt company with no interest in the people who make their platform viable. Shame on Twitch. Shame on the employees who blindly go along with their ********.
I spent a good portion of time picking the people on my host list to reflect the like minded/marginalised streamers that I know my viewers would vibe with while I'm offline. What's the point if the auto host feature doesn't properly work and those people get nothing from it. Come on, Twitch - please help us out here!
This change pretty much rendered most Twitch teams where none of the members interact with each other literally worthless.
Twitch nerfed auto hosts so that they no longer function or count as hosts. Now they are testing a paid discoverability option by monetizing stream boosts.
We demand that Twitch return auto hosts to a functional state so that content creators have access to a free discoverability tool.
Auto hosts are crucial to smaller and mid sized creators by helping boost viewer numbers at the start of a stream which can change the trajectory of the entire stream. Twitch has removed one of the only tools for discoverability on their platform, albeit an imperfect one. If Twitch expects creators and viewers to pay for stream boosts they need to provide functional and free discoverability tools based on camaraderie and community building like Auto-Hosts.
Fix Auto Hosts now, support creators of all sizes.
A necessity passed off as an improvement. Auto hosting no longer fitted into the new landing page of each channel and so it was moved from 'live' to the carousel. I dislike the way that this has been 'spun' above as being for the benefit of streamers. It clearly isn't. Auto hosts on the carousel are very easily missed and not helpful for promotion of neither the host or the hosted. They are also not shown in the 'hosting' list as they are no longer 'true' hosts (made more clear by the fact that exisiting notification systems no longer pick up autohosts as hosts). This also weakens connections between streamers in different timezones who wish to support each other. I wonder how long it will be before the manual hosting is also moved to the carousel? Team hosting was also fully removed and this was never explained why - However, this is because of continued issues with it working correctly and rather than fixing, removal was the easier option? The development of the offline channel page thus far has taken huge steps backwards.
This issue should be reopened and re-addressed.
Autohost is a HUGE part of how streamers across the globe support one another! This is how we share and promote each other regardless of time zones or access to Twitch at any given moment. Removing it from the Directory is a devastating blow that will only serve to actively HARM creators. Removing the ability to browse current autohosted channels as you've done is a crippling blow to the community and completely nullifies the point and purpose of autohost.
"Auto-hosts in live view specifically were found to be confusing for new viewers, and did not result in viewers sticking around to watch the channel."
This is because they were MIXED with channels that were actually Live. You have a section for Hosted streams, so you're halfway there. Put it back, just in a more appropriate and less confusing location. With the hosted content no longer mixed with live channels, the confusion is effectively combated.
This was not handled well, y'all. There needed to be a lot more communication around this, especially because if there had been, we could have given you this suggestion - moving instead of removing autohost content - instead of having to come band together in support telling you y'all done goofed.
So, I would also like to add - Please return this to how it worked... I wanted to host channels automatically - and that is not happening now in the same way as I do a manual host... So - in effect, this is not autohost anymore.... =( Please revert this change...
I noticed recently that Autohost no longer works to host channels or teams that you have setup on your channel, why would you disable this from working? What purpose does this serve when people want auto-host to broadcast other streamers when offline? Literally nobody asked for auto-host to be disabled across the platform entirely.
When I go offline I would expect auto-host to pick from the team or list of other streamers to auto-host from, instead what I find is that no channel gets auto-hosted now, so you're pretty much having to manual host channels now. This needs to be fixed, because auto-host only has one purpose, to host other channels automatically when offline.
You call this a conversation yet its already been declined and further voting not allowed.
You are ruining one of the best features on twitch. I might as well stream on Facebook, YouTube or Trovo now.
You have never cared what we have to say, Twitch has always done it the way its gonna do it and not care what people think like a rebellious kid.
If anyone really wants anything actually done about this, just google Jeff Bezos Public Business Email. Who knows, Maybe he will listen.
Might help to get Twitch on the same level as Amazon Customer Service/Support.
People LIKE AUTO HOST as it was - Bring it back
Please bring back autohost. It was a great way to showcase other channels on your offline page without having to manually host somene.
Auto host is not starting unless I start it manually
Removing Auto Hosting for Twitch Teams seems pretty backwards. Why wouldn't I want to promote my team members
Twitch just say its because of ad revenue & advertiser ROI's, plus, less "streaming" means you don't have to pay for those bandwidth and transcoder resources.
If you were to actually poll affiliates/partners & then viewers separately, you will see that having AUTOhost be AUTO is the preferred habit for both streamers and viewers of channels that use it.
Really what should happen is any channel that is "Auto Hosting" should act like the channel that is being hosted. For example, if I'm on my channel and its hosting a friends channel then the video, extensions, title, tags, etc and chat should be that of the AutoHosted channel and that view should count as an average viewer similar to Embedded views that are on say charity site pages.
Yes, both solutions will have negative impacts in a few areas, but it would increase discoverability & would most definitely keep viewers watching more hours.
Twitch being clueless again. Hurting small streamers and trying to pass it off as help.
Hi! Please revert it, it was very useful for us, small channels!!!