Small Streamer Support
Twitch is increasingly seeing success in large, full-time partnered streamers who seem to be growing in mainstream recognition and opportunities, but what is or can Twitch do to help dedicated small streamers get visibility to avoid a YouTube-like situation where it's only for the celebrities.
Hay mucha gente quejándose y aún no hacen nada. Dan siempre muchos beneficios a los streamers grandes pero no ayudan nada a los pequeños.
¿Por qué no promocionan los canales pequeños poniéndolos los primeros en las categorías?, ¿Que al menos puedan llegar a los 100€/$ al mes?, ¿O que tengan la tarifa mínima de pago con los anuncios?
Pintan siempre todo muy bonito en las actualizaciones pero solo se pueden beneficiar los grandes porque ponen metas que los más pequeños no llegan (por ej: "cada 3min de anuncios por hora 200€" pero solo los ganas si tienes 1000 visitas por anuncio y no te lo dicen si no buscas bien en la página, al final del todo).
Hagan algo para ayudar al pequeño streamer si realmente sois tan "pro nuevos miembros".
This is just an idea I am going to throw into the mix, as I honestly and will upfront say I am not going through all the comments on this one, as what I had was mainly the same takeaway.
What are you going to do to help us small creators?
At one time, ever large creator was a small creator. What happened to change that. Many factors. Content, Interaction with the Viewers. Word of Mouth, and Social Networking.
As someone whom comes from the older generations, this was a common place more so done in a face to face interaction.
You all have to remember, a stream can be likened to a Store. (Yes I know however let me give the example.)
As a new store, it will be rough for the first little bit, though it is possible through outside forces can either aid or hinder this process.
Advertising, and Neighborhood Building are excellent ways to get started. Make announcements on Facebook, Twitter, etc.
Interact with other streamers that provide similar content, raid or host their channels, where most streamers will remember others doing this and do the same for them. This helps bridge connections in those communities, while also growing the entirety as a whole.
Consumer interaction -- When I say this, ask yourself. How well can I sell myself? If I had to get the next person to walk near me to buy me, as if my life really depended on it, would I be able to do it?
For example, I have a mama bear mentality when a viewer, or shopper enters my store(channel) .
I will say hello, letting them know I am here. While also letting them know if they have any questions please ask.
Keeping an eye should I be able to help, while also keeping mind with the shop and others that are around.
Be it the draw of viewer interactive streams, or a just talking back and forth. There are many ways to engage and draw the consumer back time and again.
Now to what I had meant to say from the start. All of you "smaller streamers" bah all content creators.
Create a community find other creators whom share the same games, projects, (similar content that as yours) maybe a vs the other person, Streamer & Chat vs Streamer 2 & Chat....
Idk just some thoughts, in addition to some experiences from my life as a waiter, cook, delivery driver, salesman, bomb maker, coal tester, liquid lab worker, Train Transport, Gas station manager/worker, Accountant. *Yes a lot, small area in addition gotta go Red Mage in the game of life and learn all ya can before we are unable.
I would like to refer to this idea posted by person a few years ago. https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/310210-discover/suggestions/40480285-random-stream-button#comments
I think generally increasing the exposure of random streamers gives more chances to "prove yourself".
I get viewers to stay on my stream for its duration pretty well, but my problem is that my stream often doesn't even get the chance to grow my channel.
This would also solve the "streaming to a void" problem that small streamers face, where a stream can go hours with 0 unique viewers even having a look at the stream.
The quality of one's stream currently isn't the driving factor in livestreams, it's the amount of traffic one can achieve by either "leeching" off of big streamers, self promotion or growing on other platfroms.
Another idea is that, the small streamers should band together and promote each other by watching each other's streams when they themselves are not streaming 🙂. Networking and such will help us until they do something about "only the big names being featured on the homescreen. 🙂
sadly, we live in a twitch world where the people that are big or somewhat big are people that know super big streamers that came during the growth stage, it's a clout world you either get views from a big streamer or your hard stuck at 1viewer maybe if you're lucky 5
Small streamers have absolutely no discoverability.
The home screen is purely promoted streamers and large streamers.
There is a "Recommended smaller communities" category, but that is impossible to get on and a lot of the streamers in that category aren't even small!
They are 30-180 viewers which isn't really small. It is more average tbh!
Please do something to help promote small streamers.
Either accept actually small streamers in the "Recommended smaller communities" category OR do something that that helps smaller streamers get viewers! Maybe feature actual small streamers on the homepage or change the channel sorting so that you can't sort high to low viewers! Maybe that would help.
As someone who has streamed for 2 and 1/2 years every single week, putting 110% effort in whilst being severely chronically ill, disabled & housebound and still barely getting viewers as there is zero discoverability for small streamers.
Please do something positive for us.
We are completely ignored and we don't feel a part of twitch as we are treated so differently!
i been streaming for almost a year and done everything so far to gain views and be noticed but can barely get 3 people in at once don't say your a small streamer just saying, if you have over 100 followers please! don't tell me to stream everyday or long hours I've already done this, and not tryna burn out. real small streamers need better options to at least to get affiliate.
Not true. I'm a female streamer and I don't get many views or followers. @theredheadedstepchild
Small male streamers will never mount or do the same as a female streamer. Even if the male streamer is good he wont work or make it up as fast as a female streamer doing the same thing or she is even worse at the game. I know this cause me and my Friend(who is female) started streaming at the same time and she grew faster than I did. I was streaming more and doing more content.
I'm a smaller streamer who's slowly worked my way to affiliate, but I feel the process took to long and can be improved. One way i can see Twitch improve is by promoting smaller streamers more promote the people that don't have many viewers so they can gain more. The promotion algorithm is very out dated and it causes a lot of newer streamers to struggle. Another way Twitch can improve with the promotion of smaller streamers is to possibly have a set amount of time for smaller streamers to be able to be noticed and appreciated where you promote any streamer who has less then 1000 followers and views on the main discover page. Something else we can do is people already know and hear about big l streamers all the time so they can just be searched up, we can promote more people and people wont be so disappointed in Twitch if the promotions were a lot more even between bigger streamers and smaller streamers. Something else that needs to be changed is console streamers should be able to manage their content the same as Pc players for example overlays, console streamers are only allowed to us to have a overlay is through extensions which isn't very fair is our streams don't look appealing and we cant make it eye catching people wont want to click on our content. Not only that but having smaller streamers being promoted will cause people to make them bigger making more money for us as well as you yourselves. There are a lot of things both from a business stand point as well as a consumer stand point that hasn't been looked at, and there are a lot of ideas that will be soon to come. Hopefully this will be reviewed and the opportunities ahead of us will be realized and put into motion
I agree i'm a smaller streamer, and with the youtube live going on and facebook gaming, Twitch is rapidly loosing big streamers to them as it's easier not only for newer streamers to grow it's also way easier for smaller streamers to grow on those platforms, If you don't take care of the smaller streamers your platform will die slowly and you can notice that with the small numbers lately there it's way to hard to find streamers like me or other smaller streamers i stream about 5 hours, monday-friday and out of all my viewers i got from either discord or some other offsite and never any from twitch
Trust me no matter what we ask for even if it is for support for small streamers They will not do it because it doesn't make them money this is why they only support big streamers cause twitch makes more money this way. I have been streaming for 7+ years or longer and never gotten help from anyone cause no one cares about us small streamers... as a vtuber now I still see no numbers and I just don't try much on streaming anymore
Can we small streamers get help with viewers
@ReallyZeroG how could increasing the follower requirement for affiliate by a factor of 20 possibly help small streamers? All that would do is make it harder for smaller streamers to earn money
I have a suggestion for twitch on this. Maybe think about your TOS. Much in the way that FB and YouTube do not constrain their streamers, twitch could do the same and allow them to go multi platform. In doing so allow them to leverage other site to gain visibility and drive people to twitch to watch them. At least until the other sites catch up, which they will if twitch does not push the boundaries further. Also and this is going to be frowned upon by many, lift the barrier to entry. Make affiliate 1000 followers before people can sub etc. Only issue with that will be that twitch will lose revenue as people cannot sub and can only support the streamer via donations.
Ultimately if you keep the viewer base in the top 0.001% of twitch's content creators you are creating a risk for the business as a whole as should you "lose" those creators like we have seen recently with Tim, Lupo & Ludwig, you will lose a large part of your "watcher" base. A few more big names do the same thing I am not sure if twitch can survive it and you only have yourselves to blame as you have the creator base to remain strong.
A few days ago, I reached 1 year of streaming, to 1 or 2 people max...
I really love doing this, but I don't know if I can keep it up like this...
there hasnt been really small streamer support i been trying to stream and still not getting out there like others and it is hard to get viewer ship if no one helps out getting promoted on front page or hey check this guys out.
Discoverability isn't the issue, streamers not knowing how to title and tag their streams is though.
Simply put I have no problem finding new streamers to watch that are small and I honestly belive that I have no problem being discovered. The problem here comes from entitled streamers thinking that because they "grind" 40 hours of Apex Legends with no tags except for the language they speak that they are owed something.
Y'all need to learn how to brand yourselves before you start giving out to the platform. Of course Twitch is going to offer big names to brand new users who have never used the platform before because they're a safe bet. Why would Twitch recommend your low bitrate 346p COD Warzone where you're not engaging with the audience and not giving any indication that your stream should be clicked over the next person's.
Look at your VODs when you're done, that view count shows how many people clicked on. If your average view count is 0.7 and you've had 40 views on your VOD then YOU are the problem. If you've only had 5 clicks then you're in an oversaturated category. I'm a big supporter of play what you want but you can't complain that you aren't getting discovered when you aren't doing research or understanding the numbers. Stop bitching at Twitch for your failings. Use tags, title your streams better and TALK! Even if nobody is talking in chat, keep talking.
You made changes to the browse system that allowed us to view smaller streamers for a bout a week. Now its back to "most popular" again. What happened? Things were going great. Not just for us small streamers but for any of you that actually use the service you provide here. Not many want to join a stream that has thousands of viewers already. Chat is useless and its near impossible to make connections or talk to the streamer when there are thousands trying talk at once. The streamer doesnt get to even read most of the comments or decides to not even read it at all. Twitch is supposed to be a place where you can communicate with the broadcaster of the entertainment you are watching and right now thats broken for your "high view streamers". If you set it back to the previous setup it would be easier to find decent content that allows people to get to talk and get to know the streamer and vice versa. It may upset the more popular streamers but if you dont tip the balance somehow, its only going to get worse.
If A Small Streamer have over 30 hours streamed in a month they should get some kind of payment for there hard work