50% cut is beyond ridiculous, when I subscribe to a streamer I do it to support them not to support the platform that's notorious for not only ignoring its audience and the people who make them money but also will just rip the livelihood from people who've not broken TOS while keeping the ones who regularly break TOS. I understand that a cut is taken but 50% is far too much, I would have expected a 10% cut or even 15%. If twitch wants to keep the people who make them money they need to start treating them better and I feel that taking a lower cut from their earnings is a good start.

@BarefootOnTheM00n We get all bits... AFTER the initial cut that Twitch takes to purchase the bits.

@naitoyoru: The only person I see being a brat is you. You're account was created in 2013, in that time you have followed 4 streamers, one of which has over 22k viewing hours (which I'm positive you didn't contribute a whole hell of a lot to). You have never streamed on the platform thus not only do you not make any money from it, nor do you contribute to it in any way. Therefore, this doesn't affect you, in any way, shape form or fashion, yet you come here to slam people who are trying to advocate for themselves.

The reality is that Twitch takes 50% of all subscriber payouts, they take nearly 30% of all bits payouts (which are usually miniscule because of the fractured economy that keeps users in the dark about how much a bit pays). The company pays out $3.50 CPM on average for Ads, meaning that it takes 1000 unique ad views to make $3.50 for showing ads, no matter the length of the ad. The rest of the ad revenue (Typically, the ads are sold for around $8 CPM) goes to Twitch.

If you take all of those figures and look at the fact that Twitch currently has over 639 million registered accounts, of those there are roughly 9 million active streamers, of which 1.9 million are affiliate and approximately 51k are partners. In the past month alone there were over 68 million hours streamed across an average of 98k broadcasters (Peak 142k, and thats a low month).

Twitch forces at minimum 90 seconds of ad for every 45 minutes of watched content. If you account that only 10% of the Twitch streamers are at Affiliate or Partner level, and non-monetized streams do not have ads, that is still roughly 6.8 Million hours streamed. At 1:30 per 45 minutes streamed, thats 9.066 million 1:30 ad slots which comprise of 3 ads per slot for a whopping 27m ads shown.

If you calculate that Twitch is paid $8CPM at what is likely an average view rate of 30% per ad, that is still $64 Million in ad revue, of which only about $28 Million is paid out to monetized streamers, with the largest portion being distributed to the top 0.5% (The most streamed partners).

That means the platform still pockets roughly $36M in ad revenue and we haven't even gotten to Subscribers and Bits yet.

All the while, the streamers who struggle to reach their $100 monetary payout limit (which based on the numbers is actually about 98% of all active streamers btw) don't make a dime for months on end.

Yes, Twitch is a business and a for-profit organization, but the profit is made on the backs of its creators who have no option but to either put up with it and hope they make a payout or switch to a different platform, which would ultimately lose them followers as many have proven before. (If you don't believe me go look at Harris Heller's reports of his own loss in engagement and the fiscal impact of him moving to YouTube from Twitch, and he was one of the top 1% of Twitch Streamers).

So instead of complaining about something you know NOTHING about, why don't you take your own advice and tell mommy and daddy the mean man was being rude to you on the internet, but don't come insulting creators for standing up for themselves.

Other companies handle payout minimums by setting a minimum OR a time period. So, if you don’t hit the payout minimum of $100 within 6 months, it’ll just automatically pay only. That’ll save Twitch money on accounting while still allowing small streamers to get our payouts! This is what B&N Press does

@naitoyoru: "Twitch / Amazon pays you already 50%."

If you don't make the $100 minimum, you get exactly zero and Twitch keeps it. This amounts to wage theft, which is actually against the law, if you get any subs at all. It's not about being "brats," it's about being fair and paying people what they make.

*sigh* Then switch over to Youtube ^^ If it bugs you people that much then just switch but stop annoying Twitch for it. Twitch / Amazon pays you already 50%. They also pay money for the Page and that you people can stream without paying yourself so stop being little brats that aren't getting enough money from there mommy / daddy. If it bugs you that much then jsut switch over to YT but stop that unnecessary nonsense.

Do it or someone will make a platform that does. Power to the workers.
A change I would suggest is No partner increased percentage, no need to punish small and start up streamers. Give them all 95%

For those in the comments, they said make the payout MINIMUM lower, not the payments.

You don't get paid unless you make a minimum $ per payment round. Currently that's $100. — So if you make less than $100 TWITCH KEEPS YOUR MONEY AND DOESN'T PAY YOU. You have to wait until you've accumulated $100 (after Twitch's cut) to get paid.

As a financially destitute streamer with a small audience, this is BAD. Some people use bits and subscriptions as a way of "donating" to streamers, especially when anonymity is a concern. Yet i see none of it on my channel because i haven't reached the threshold.

The idea of a threshold itself is ridiculous. Twitch surely processes payments in batches, so cost shouldn't be a concern. They already took their cut, too.

Reaching affiliate should be enough! That means you have promise, and reach minimum goals in streaming. Penalizing streamers, & withholding their payments, for viewership fluctuations, lack of popularity in a dense market, and difficulties in growth is unfair.

If I heard this right, Twitch takes half even from Games Done Quick. How messed up is that!?

Please be sure to spread the word on social media and use the hashtag #subsplit . If you do be sure to tag me @inventorblades on Twitter! We need to band together.

There’s absolutely no reason to have a threshold like this. I imagine twitch uses it to “incentivize” creators to “work harder” or some other corporate drivel, but it’s senseless. Maybe a $100 threshold is nothing to some people, but for many, even $20 can be the difference between being able to get groceries or not. If the threshold doesn’t negatively impact you, think of those it DOES. Please think of how severely it impacts them and vote in their favor.

For those in the comments, they said make the payout MINIMUM lower, not the payments.

You don't get paid unless you make a minimum $ per payment round. Currently that's $100. — So if you make less than $100 TWITCH KEEPS YOUR MONEY AND DOESN'T PAY YOU. You have to wait until you've accumulated $100 (after Twitch's cut) to get paid.

As a financially destitute streamer with a small audience, this is BAD. Some people use bits and subscriptions as a way of "donating" to streamers, especially when anonymity is a concern. Yet i see none of it on my channel because i haven't reached the threshold.

The idea of a threshold itself is ridiculous. Twitch surely processes payments in batches, so cost shouldn't be a concern. They already took their cut, too.

Reaching affiliate should be enough! That means you have promise, and reach minimum goals in streaming. Penalizing streamers, & withholding their payments, for viewership fluctuations, lack of popularity in a dense market, and difficulties in growth is unfair.

I don't complain about the split, it's fine for me how it is, since we get all bits. But I agree with lowering the payout depending on how constant the streamer streams.
But shouldn't be lower than 50$, I think this is fair.

It’s so sad to see people wanting to support me through subs and only 50% of their support actually reaches me! 70% split would be only fair.

Now Facebook is giving 100% of fan subs/stars/etc for they live content creators, twitch need go the competition is there and arrogance does not let you see

The old model, (failing for good reasons) is people with power, platform, and money exploit the **** out of artists and creators and get rich off of them, while the ones making them rich get taken advantage of. Twitch has the chance to move forward by rewarding artist/creators for being the indispensable resource they are, and work together for fair, honest, mutual benefit. They could pay 60-70% of subscriptions and other monies that come in to streamers, which would make Twitch draw more streamers. Without quality streamers like Grym, and Rifftrax, Twitch would not exist. I don't follow Twitch, I follow the artists. I go where they go. If they leave Twitch, I will follow them.

Se os afiliados realmente tiverem um maior repasse, espero que isso aconteça com os streamers BR também, pois tem muita gente que depende do pagamento da Twitch para viver/sobreviver.
Espero que isso venha a acontecer mesmo.

Why the **** make the payment lower?? They want to make Amaxon rules for Twitch, soon, you guys will need at leas 20hrs per day go get paid 10 dollars a week.

@unicornmom666 Exactly "It is the creators that make it a viable business without them they wouldn't exist" they just provide the platform, its the creators that do all the work, with people spending hours on end with alert setups, emotes channel point rewards, we need more credit

I'm just saying of big b*zos doesnt have to do taxes, why does twitch take 50% off of streamers who have to tax it? doesnt seem right to me.