Change revenue split between streamers and lower payout minimums
I believe these recommendations combined would positively make a huge impact for every streamer and supporter.
Change the payout split between streamers and Twitch. Right now affiliates and most partners only get a 50% split from a Twitch subscriptions ($2.50 USD). I would like to see all streamers get a minimum 70% revenue split from subscriptions with a higher revenue split for all partners 80%. Currently both Facebook and YouTube streamers get a 70% split from subscriptions (and they have the option to create custom subscriber tiers with Youtube).
In addition, I would like to see Twitch lower its payout minimum which is currently $100 USD to $10 - $20 USD. A $100 USD payout is the equivalent to 40 subscriptions not including bits or ad revenue. For the smaller streamers to benefit from that financial support a viewer gives them, they need to be able to actually receive it in a reasonable amount of time.
To put this in perspective: Amazon Affiliates monthly payout minimum is 10 USD (they also give the option to pay out with gift cards) and Patreon's monthly payout minimum is only 3 USD.
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NefasQS
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A higher split would benefit both Twitch and creators in both the short and long-term.
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DaveSkywalker
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Over 22k votes and nothing changing in regards to revenue split. Clearly Twitch is not going to change anything when it comes to sharing revenue (except to share less of it). I already stopped supporting streamers through Twitch - I pay them directly. So Twitch is losing money from me and many others like me. I also stopped streaming except for charity events and I ask everyone to donate to the charity rather than subscribe or give bits.
More people should get on board with this. As long as you keep spending your money on bits and subs, Twitch has no incentive to give creators more. So tip them via Paypal, Zelle, Venmo, Cash, etc. If you're a streamer, encourage your supporters to give money outside of Twitch - it's more money for you (and/or less money for your fans.)
Or just go to other platforms and support streamers there and encourage your favorites on Twitch to switch too.
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twitch.tv/MonicaElleRose
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So nice to see that 1/2 of this uservoice has been acted on! Nice to see lower payout minimums coming, Ideally I would would like to see them a lot lower. Hopefully Canada, America and many other countries will be added to that list soon!
Would also like to see increased payout frequency be added.Thanks twitch https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/924712-creator-dashboard/suggestions/44301474-lower-payout-requirements
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JoRoSaR
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Provide All Partners with Improved Revenue Split, Not Just Ad Incentive Program
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So our Twitch options for increased Partner payouts appear to be:
1. Lose control over when we run ads (and risk ads playing in the middle of a game or a quiz round etc.)
2. Run them diligently and manually but lose any increased payout
This is not helpful to Partners who run specific pieces of content and then have specified periods where ad breaks should be. In order for me to continue to do this, I have to avoid the ads incentive program altogether, and accept that I will not get an improved revenue split.
This feels disingenous on the part of Twitch, who should really roll out the improved revenue split across all Partners, regardless of whether they run their ads manually or not.
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KittyKatVamp
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can someone help me understand why i am only getting 98.99 on my check this time??? i am so confused if the payout doesnt happen till it hits $100.00 then why am i missing money on this check. i dont have a job this is all i have for income two bucks may not seem important to some but for me its very important
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Zee_RP
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This would be amazing for not just the creator's that are trying to turn dreams to reality but this will be very good for Twitch as well it is a no brainer!
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Tw1gby
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This would be a great change, currently, the revenue split is honestly absurd considering the streamers are the fundamental basis for the platform. While 100% to streamers would be fantastic, I understand that Twitch as a company wants to make all the money they can, so I think a 70%/80% split is more than fair. The recent talks of lowering the Partnered split down to 50% is definitely an unwelcomed change as it's just saddening that they'd like the money creators make to be split even fewer and far between? Disappointing.
And the payout limit as well! It would be life-changing to me as a small creator to be able to have the money I made soon after I made it. Having to wait 3 or 4 months for it all to build up is a instability that I feel is unnecessary to need to deal with. While I do think the concept of a payout limit isn't awful, I do believe there should be some filter so that people aren't just getting paid a dollar or two, especially if your payment method is by check, but as you said, 100 is certainly too high.
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InventorBLADES
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ALWAYS use the #subsplit hashtag when sharing this suggestion on social media. Keep spreading the word! Let your voices be heard.
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imptris
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This would be lifechanging for me as a small creator on the platform that wants to eventually go full-time. Having a higher revenue split in favor of streamers, in my opinion, would greatly benefit Twitch. More people would WANT to stream and become affiliated, for starters. I also believe this would greatly improve the motivation for people to start streaming long-term and grow their platforms more, thus raking in more money for themselves AND the platform.
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FissionPhoenix
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The hope and expectation for amazon is that there would be more support to offset the change in revenue split... but also they can afford to reward their creators more.
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AmericanNidiot
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All we're asking for is lower payout amount (so instead of $100 minimum it's like $25/$50 instead), a 70/30 split on subs/bits/etc., and maybe instead of once a month payment, maybe make it twice a month?? Like keep mid-month payout but also add one for the beginning or end of the month! Like, seriously, how is it that hard to understand? And with inflation going around, the price of living is ridiculous. Like ffs, I can't even commit to my streams like I want (or afford a better setup for that matter), cause I have to work a normal af job working retail, which harms my mental health to the point I don't even want to stream...
Add on to the fact that Twitch hates small streamers, so it's hard for new affiliates to even gain a smidge of an audience and constant subscribers to even make it worth it is just gut wrenching... Please, ******* do better.
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YukiHoshikawa
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The recent proposal by Twitch to put their profit above their creators has made it crystal clear to me what they're interested in, and it greatly disappoints and angers me. By doing the exact opposite of this suggestion, I'm now seriously considering leaving the platform in favor of YouTube, where there's a 70/30 split for ALL creators (you just have to get 1,000 subscribers first).
It's clear now the only way this is going to get fixed is if Twitch loses money, and the easiest way that's gonna happen is if streamers - BIG streamers - leave the platform. YouTube's managed to ****** some of them up, but I fear that's likely the only way the top 0.1% will leave the platform, and actually cause Twitch some damage.
For those unaware, such as perhaps NoRezervationz, there were articles posted yesterday that Twitch is interested in lowering the sub split of top partners from 70% to 50%, and incentivizing more ads, and that these changes could come as soon as this summer.
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NoRezervationz
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@seepo1456 What are you talking about? This is about Affiliates, not Partners. No one said anything about lowering Partner pay. smh
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seepo1456
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People have switched their full time livelyhoods to streaming. Lowering their pay will be catastrophic for most of those partners. Partners that brought people to twitch who wouldn't otherwise be here. You can't do that to those people!
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tim_tom__
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This 70/30 split would honestly be life changing for me. Currently putting in 60hrs a week into the stream and having to get another job.
With the rest of the country getting increased wages we should as well!
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NoRezervationz
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@chemi_chemi Not every streamer makes the big bucks. It's a very very small percentage. Before I had to stop streaming, I had a few subs for several months and thousands of bits, but never broke the minimum for payout, so Twitch just kept all of the money.
Twitch makes tons of money screwing small streamers with their payout policies. They need to do better.
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chemi_chemi
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I think all twitch streamers are really lucky and I'm protecting and jealous but I want to make that kind of money at home, someone want to help? Please??
I would take even 10% of what these guys make
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renlikelauren
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Twitch affiliates and partners deserve more support from Twitch. Y'all (Twitch) need to catch up with other platforms and pay us what we deserve.
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scarfee
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I think after today’s news broke, this needs more boosting. Twitch needs to wake up and treat their creators well, before the YouTubes and Facebooks of the market start to look appealing enough for Twitch to lose creators and viewers en-masse.
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LunaMist12_
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Honestly, i think you guys (twitch) should give the content creators the money they deserve and for small cc let them keep the money they earned they dont need to be payed less same goes to big acc