Move TwitchCon NA Out of Las Vegas
Considering the conversations happening both in-person among attendees and online, it's safe to say a large group of attendees consider that Las Vegas wasn't a great fit as a TwitchCon host city.
TwitchCon is about community and coming together. Except in Las Vegas, due to traffic, large distances and road closures, as well as casinos, shows and other entertainment options, going to the expo floor was more of a hassle and afterthought than the main event.
By moving TwitchCon to a more walkable city, like San Diego [the previous-host city], people spend less time, energy as well as money in getting to the TwitchCon venue which makes creators spend more time on the show floor engaging with their peers and community members, everything TwitchCon stands for.
TwitchCon is also an event where Twitch creators are "always-on" - networking with brands to collaborate with; hosting panels; meeting community members and some even competing in events like Twitch Rivals. Sensory overload is a real thing and Twitch's efforts onsite to provide decompressing spaces, like the Friendship Room, were incredibly appreciated. However, Vegas as a city that's also "always-on", with Casinos and Music running 24/7, felt like even when you were at your hotel you were still not in a place where you could entirely decompress and remove yourself from the narrative.
I do not want to discredit the quality of 2023's show or the LVCC, as it shined as a world-class convention center with grand spaces, a decent food offering, and accessibility, but Las Vegas as a city felt like a not the best fit for what TwitchCon is supposed to be.
I'm not sure what the best option for a TwitchCon 2024 host city is, and I trust that the Twitch team will perform their due diligence as they prepare for next year's show, but wanted to share this idea through official channels to measure interest as well.
I say we should have TwitchCon 2024 in Orlando Florida! It would keep everyone entertained with things to do around the convention center. One day is more than enough for me to do the things I want to do at the event, so I would like to have things to do like how Vegas provided. San Diego did not provide that at all. Same thing with San Jose.
They should host the convention at the orange county convention center in Orlando Florida, it meets both requirements. It has adequate stuff to occupy you around the convention center, more than you'll probably have time for while being within walking distance of hotels. (actual walking distance). It takes away that overwhelming aspect most people didn't like from vegas and is obviously cheaper. Vegas was fun for my group since we only planned on going to Twitchcon for one day this year as apposed to 3 in years past. But having to go there for all 3 I could see being a big annoyance for a lot of people.
Had a blast at TwitchCon Vegas, if you can't have fun in Vegas, you can't have fun anywhere.
Would love an east coast or a central timezone location that is easily accessible by all means of travel.
I fully agree that Vegas was not a good choice for the location. The Convention center itself was excellent, but insanely expensive compared to other cons.
I booked my hotel early, chose something inexpensive and with quick access to the monorail and still spent far more time walking between events than I ever expected. Ride shares were incredibly difficult to get let alone their cost. While the monorail was useful it was incredibly limited. The lack of transportation to the southern and western sides of the strip really impacted con goers.
The events outside TwitchCon proper were spread out across the strip forcing people to pick and choose between events when they would typically be able to attend both.
The weather was also quite inhospitable for people to be spending long spans of time outside walking and the incredibly dry air inside venues only exacerbated the issues. Twitch being an online platform makes it super accessible to creators and viewers alike with medical conditions and I think the Las Vegas heat is oppressive for healthy individuals let alone those with medical needs.
I agree with comments about hotels being frustrating, casinos are designed to be mazes, have indoor smoking and are just frustrating to navigate in general. Events being held in casinos were unnecessarily difficult to find and often the refreshments available were both very low quality and expensive.
Coming from Los Angeles, I'm used to some pretty absurd prices but typically the quality is at least decent. I was charged $16 for a gas station salad in the convention center. Many TwitchCon attendees have saved up for the trip and were appalled at how over budget they ran. At PAX West a bottle of water was $4.50 while the LVCC ran$7.50.
I loved the con, hated the location. I tried to plan as best I could but struggled with unforeseen transportation issues and costs. Thank so much!
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TwitchCon is an amazing event, with so many of us being basically colleagues with no office together, it's a fantastic way to meet. I also feel like the logistics of the event itself always get better and better. The panels were better, the diversity of voices was amazing to see and honestly even the food options at the venue were great.
However, Vegas was not so great. I had a panic attack while at the partner party due to the amount of people and overwhelm (the party itself was lovely, food drinks all great!) But I stepped outside and was just overwhelmed more.
Then it took me over 1.5 hours to get home from the venue due to canceled Ubers (not by me), traffic and just general wait times.
On Saturday I missed not 1 but 2 parties because I knew I couldn't get to the offsite event and then back to the Con in time for a panel and then after my panel I couldn't make it to the venue in time before the party was over.
I am a frequent con goer, and frequent panelist. I am usually really good about timing these things, leaving 1+ hours of buffer in between events to account for traffic, etc. Even so, I had to cancel offsite plans on Sunday because I knew I wouldn't be able to make them. But the only food outside of the con in a walkable distance was hotel dining.
Safety was a big issue around the city and hotels as well. My hotel was less than a mile away but I couldn't walk to the venue alone due to being cat called/my friend being cat called when she tried to walk by herself. Security from the convention center East Hall, came to my rescue but what if he didn't? And that was at 10 AM in the morning.
Safetly, costs and logistics make it really hard to want to go back to TC if it's in Vegas. Which is a shame because it was great having a venue as large and spread out as it was and a lot of the other logistics inside the con were lovely.
All i see is people complaining about minor inconvenience due to a lack of their own planning. Yet everyone who attended were safe, security both at the convention and the city itself was top notch. Hotels were completely around the convention center itself ( not the cities fault if you didn't plan accordingly). Not planning your travel to and from the site is not the cities fault either. Yet twitch con las vegas is and so far has been the largest convention to date, with an excessive amount of space for venders and stall merchants, more then enough private halls for all the panels and meetings to take place, plenty of space for attendees to move about the covention to not feel claustrophobic, or crushed by mass bodies, mire then enough room for people to lounge about without being in anyones way. Most of you focused your displeasure on petty self centered points. Oh travel, oh walking, oh big lights. Honestly im dissapointed in the fact most of you are to self centered to even notice, let alone talk about all the positives of this twitchcon. It was HUGE! It offered so much! Venders had space to create amazing booths! Ive never seen so many independent artist stalls or huge game tables out on a floor for people to gather and play, there was enough space for everyone to enjoy twitch rivals without feeling overwelmed! Everywhere i went there was something to see, touch, explore and so many people with verying degrees of medical assistance being accommodated! Yet you **** and moan about a few things. Shame on you and your self absorbed attitudes!
I didn’t attend this year’s TC in part because I knew I wouldn’t enjoy Vegas. Please move it to a more walkable and accessible city. Indianapolis is a great example.
This was my 1st Twitchcon and it was SO amazing. I'm so happy I made the trip from the east coast to Vegas.
However, I need to point out something overlooked- we are a community of gamers and for me- the city itself was so overstimulating that it was very difficult for me to find time to recharge as an introvert. I pushed myself mentally attending this trip that by 8 pm daily I was falling asleep while standing.
I want to be mindful of the target audience Twitch serves - I would probably assume many of us felt the same about the overstimulation. While I understand in person events are a hype/stimulating experience- pairing it with one of the most active cities in the world may have not been the best pick.
Additionally, I picked the hotel suggested from Twitch and even as a fit person, the city was very unwalkable and painful to experience. I can only imagine how the experience was for those who needed accessibility accommodations.
I praise Twitch for giving us plenty of quiet time and space WITHIN the center. I have no complaints how it was set up - but the setting of it was very difficult for many of us!
I'm happy to go back to the West (though I'm biased and would love an East coast location ;) ) but I think prioritizing accessibility and comfort should be #1 consideration for future Twitchcons.
My most cherished memories from Twtichcon 2022 were the spontaneous get togethers and happenings that occurred in the Gas Lamp district after the con. Having TC in San Diego allowed for so much more networking and time spent with friends.
LV was too hostile to walking and car share and driving! I wasn't able to see everyone I wanted to because we were all so spread out and getting anywhere was a struggle.
Let me start by saying that I had a good time at TC in Las Vegas, but it could have been even better. Las Vegas is a great town with tons to do, but I thought the over stimulation detracted from the feeling of community that I’ve felt at TC in years past. Vegas itself is very decentralized and it require a lot of time (which is limited) moving to and from the convention as well as outside events. I drove my own car the whole time in Vegas, but I heard from many others that ridesharing was not only expensive, but unreliable.
Ultimately the con itself was well executed and fun, but that same energy could have easily been in any other city. The Twitch community is what makes TwitchCon so special, and the decentralized nature of Las Vegas kept a good event from becoming great.
I've never even gone to TC. I considered it a few times, but even when it was in San Diego that's still west coast and alienates everyone on the east coast. I love San Diego, but if I'm traveling all the way out there I'm not going to want to spend most of my time in a convention center. I'm going to want to be outside, going around and experiencing San Diego.
Some conventions like PAX handle this by having a convention in each region. TC is probably too small for this, but I would be more likely to attend one on the east coast because that's where I live. This is probably not a popular or practical idea, but I think if there's only going to be one TC then it should be more centrally located in the US. Something like Chicago might work, so people from the east and west coasts have equal distance to travel. Maybe less people would actually attend overall, idk. Maybe most people that would attend TC live on the west coast and I have no idea what I'm talking about. Either way, Vegas is likely not the move.
I support this idea, Saturday was a pretty overwhelming day for myself, I just wanted to go back into my hotel and chill for a few hours and possibly return. However it was a hike to get back, monorail was packed with people attending the neighboring concert event. Making it a huge chore to go back and forth to and from convention at a TwitchCon hotel. Not to mention, even cabs/uber rides took a good 30 min to an hour to get around due to the traffic conditions for a 2 mile ride. I ended up missing a good chunk of the day and only got my best enjoyment from Friday. I still had a fun time though!
First, I'd like to say Twitchcon was great. We had wonderful opportunities, got stoked about new ideas in streaming, and there were fun venues.
However, the venues are not why we go to Twitchcon and those opportunities, meetups, etc. happen regardless of venue. Here were the issues we saw
Lack of Organic meetups - Vegas really put a damper on how easily we could meet fellow creators. We were in an approved hotel and I met more vacationers, metal workers, and brides than Twitch streamers in my hotel. A smaller walkable city promotes organic interaction as we are not all taking cabs
Accessibility - this was slim to nil. Even the partner party had severe issues for those with stability or visual impairments. I also saw that panels did not even have sufficient access as well.
Cost - while venues were cheaper for the hosting companies, cabs and food were incredibly expensive. We come from NYC and it's ridiculous when I'm saying the food in vegas was 1.5-3x the cost of food in NYC. Plus every single cab was $30-$50 with no other option. Every single mixer was a huge gamble and even the Twitchcon official meetup was smaller than previous years because of that. I spent more on cabs in one weekend than I have spent for cabs my entire quarter in NYC and I didn't spend a single dime on transportation in san diego apart from going to the airport.
Spread out parties and mixers - This was bad from a vendor point of view as well as creator. We couldn't move from party to party. Every party was a financial and time gamble. I spent almost as much time transporting myself places as I did in the parties. We should have more time meeting people, making connections, and being at the places that vendors have created. Plus because of that and the cost of the venues itself? There were a TON of vendors who didn't even have mixers or events or had to pull out or have creators pay entrance fees.
More adult city and needing to be 21 for everything - where were the kids? where were the younger creators? They weren't there. Twitchcon needs to inspire kids to become content creators or to deepen their ties in the communities they are a part of. This is a huge chance to increase the pipeline for Twitch's future generation. We do not want to become the new facebook and part of changing that is by having the younger generations get invested. San Diego had way more creators under 21 and I saw a lot of parents with kids. In Vegas? I saw legit only 1 teenager and truly? might have actually been a younger-looking adult. xD
While Vegas is a fun city, we should be prioritizing keeping Twitchcon creators in the same location to increase the ways they can interact with one another. It felt like the priority was just being in a fun place instead of facilitating vendor, creator, and community meetups and deepening those ties.
Overall, absolutely loved this Twitchcon and have some great takeaways but truly believe that being in Vegas is not the right fit.
Agree, LVCC is just not walkable in the hot desert heat atm. Maybe when the loop is rolled out to more locations over time, will it become more viable. Great venue, but hold T/C in December if you want to have it in Vegas again lol
Agree with what others are saying. As a regular Vegas attendee, it is very hit or miss. This time around was a huge miss. Rideshare was disgustingly horrible, not walkable, and traffic was over the top due to to Formula one construction, festival concert, and general weekend Vegas goers. 45 mins for lyft/uber and then another hour to go to where you need to go. The one saving grace was the convention hall itself. Good access to food/coffee for recharge, and bottle refilling stations. Not enough general seating however.
I would say move it. If you are sticking to west coast, San Diego, Anaheim, or Phoenix would be great.
I was a wingman for BlindGamerSteve during the weekend, and I saw this event from an accessibility point of view. I will say Twitch was doing their best, but Vegas on a whole was not. there were mixed signals between TwitchCon, the conference center, and LV's finest. And there is a big difference between attending Las Vegas with your friends versus attending a convention in Vegas (which I've done several times before this).
I understand why Vegas was the alternative to San Diego this year, but the Convention Center was anything but convenient. I believe Steve and I have a contingency plan for Vegas if it happens in 2024, but we're hoping for San Diego. You are not as reliant on Rideshare (as the pickup areas are extremely inconsistent), and the Rideshare itself is something of a **** shoot (pardon the pun) on quality. And yeah, Vegas is difficult on a budget. Accessibility scooters that were comped at SDCC were $80/day. And Vegas flights are now an investment. The SD ticket was far more affordable.
Vegas is doable in a pinch, but not what I was call desirable. Not presently.
Yeah Vegas is not it. It's so expensive, Uber/Lyft is ridiculous and it's not walkable!
Vegas to me was extremely difficult from an industry/creator standpoint due to the amount of costs for ubers. If I was an exhibitor the amount of work that I was able to do would have been significantly impacted due to the amount of time spent in transportation to and from the convention floor.
Ubers themselves were extremely pricey, and the Tesla tunnel was not advertised well from the monorail for many people to utilize until they heard about it. While the hotels were cheap the costs of food/transportation didn't equate the money I was saving on a hotel.
Not only that, but in other locations when Twitch con is happening I am able to run into creators/community/industry individuals at a much higher rate than Vegas. While the convention center itself was amazing anything off-site was difficult.
The twitch con party was much better this year due to it being more of an experience and less of a concert.