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KisaiTenshi
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A problem I've seen more frequently as of late is "ad dumping" by ad partners who decide that they need to "sell as much as possible", so I keep seeing french ads in an english market. Like please! McDonalds, I love ya, but you are wasting so much of your ad french ad spend on people who don't know french and aren't going to learn french.
What are needed are ad controls for both the channel and the viewer. List the last 100 ads shown (as a channel owner) and select "show less often" or "show never", likewise, allow the channel owner to set some hidden keywords to help advertisers know that it's OKAY to show things (eg adult-only products) when you are doing a "mature stream" that would otherwise be impossible to show on the general PG13 content.
For the viewer, bring up a "Skip" button if the viewer has seen the ad already, twitch will then select another ad that hasn't been seen as long as the streamer is in "ad break" mode. A "stop showing me this ad" option from their "Viewed ad history" then applies globally. Every time a view selects "Stop showing me this ad", they would get a checkbox list of reasons, eg
- I've seen this ad too many times and it's annoying
- I do not like this brand
- The volume is too loud
- It is not in my languageWe know people will just try to opt out of all ads altogether by bad faith reporting everything, so if a user has "reported" more than 5% of the ads for any reason they would be upsold on Twitch Turbo with a "Do you know about Twitch Turbo, with it you will see no ads." Then set a cooldown on the ability to report further ads unless action is taken on those reports.
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An error occurred while saving the comment KisaiTenshi
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This feature really does need to be an opt-in, or "only when I am in (category list)", because Twitch very much underestimates how willing people are going to troll others.
I'd even go one further and require that anyone "knocking" needs to be streaming at partner levels (25h+12d) so that people aren't just making throw-away accounts to harass streamers with the actual notifications.
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The featured clips feature has actually made discoverability worse. Much worse. As it trades quantity for quality, and bigger streamers that just want it to work like it worked before just feature everything, and it drowns out all other streamers.
How I'd fix it:
- Clips on the streamers own channel show featured before non-featured
- Clips on the game category don't show at all unless there are no live streams in that category, and only show clips from streamers who have streamed the content the longest and featured a clip, over those who have streamed it once and never again. -
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An error occurred while saving the comment KisaiTenshi
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Adding to this:
- Undo deletion of clips for up to 1 year
- Block some/all users/moderators/self from accidentally/intentionally deleting clips (eg hacking, people having a bad day, people new at clipping) after they've been live for 24 hours
- Allow channel owner to undelete clips regardless who made itKisaiTenshi
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I've been having this problem frequently show up too. It seems to happen after the second or third ad break.
There seems to be numerous other scripting bugs, but this one is exceptionally annoying because I have to force a refresh before I can adjust the volume.
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Unfortunately a lot of clips (especially when more than one game is played during the same stream) get attributed to only what the stream started as, frequently "just chatting"
Twitch should be able to fix this by having the streamer able to retroactively select the time stamp or add a marker where the game was changed, and change all clips made from that time stamp until the next marker to the new category.
In addition, Twitch should apply this to tags as well. As a stream might switch to or from a mature content category and mark all clips made during a mature game as mature.
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If Twitch can detect copyrighted music in a game, they certainly could detect game music in a game. This would also need to be turned off for streamers who are watching clips or are using the same music (eg CC0 music) as part of their stream.
It would be relatively easy to just look for the title screen/pause/LFG music for common popular games (eg Valorant, Apex, DBD, LoL, etc) and automatically switch to those game categories if they are in the correct game category. Failing that, at least warn the streamer they will automatically be changed to the category in 60 seconds and the streamer can select "I'm not playing that" and reject it.
However, on the other side of this, many RPG Maker and Asset-flip games use the same music, so those ID's would need to be whitelisted as "incorrect game category does not apply" and only prompt the streamer they are not in the correct category if they are in something like Just Chatting or Art.
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I'd suggest a "raid someone new" version of this. The underlying logic will look for someone in the same category with the same tags. At that point the raider will get a list of streamers streaming in the same category, language, and weight the tags by the least common among all, but common to the raider to avoid streamers who have spammy unhelpful tags.
This would also have the benefit to encourage people who want to be raided to tag correctly, particularly with respect to mature tags.
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There is definitely some kind of targeting control needed with ads. Twitch wants us to self-label if something contains certain content types. Twitch should also allow us to block the same. If I'm streaming a mario game, I don't think it's appropriate to show ads for horror films.
This can be accomplished most easily by taking into account the category's own rating, and just having a toggle in the ad revenue page to "restrict ads to below this rating, when not in a game category (will reduce revenue.)" To account for Just Chatting, Art, and ASMR.
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An error occurred while saving the comment KisaiTenshi
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@ChasePK , again so what. Why are you raging against the idea of Twitch supporting something they will have to anyway?
If they don't support AV1, then more streamers will just move to Youtube because youtube can say "better quality, less expensive, less latency", even if that's only true for those who have AV1 hardware.
Now calm down and stop insulting people.
An error occurred while saving the comment KisaiTenshi
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@ChasePK So what. It's not like Twitch is going to be like "oh you can only stream at h264 because some poor guy in Korea didn't want to replace their 15 year old first-generation smartTV. Did you know your web browser can do AV1 in software even on hardware released in 2014?
Quite frankly it's a shame that Twitch neither supports HDR, 4K or H265, but seeing as no streaming software did either, it wasn't something to lose sleep over. But AV1 can literately increase the quality or reduce the bitrate necessary to maintain the same quality. It's quite literately in Twitch's best interests, particularly in Asia to do this, because that's where they are paying the highest rates for data.
An error occurred while saving the comment KisaiTenshi
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Please support AV1. M3 Mac and A17 Pro (iPhone 15 Pro)'s now support decoding AV1. So this just leaves smartTV's as the last hold out. If you have a 11th gen Intel CPU, Nvidia 30-series, or AMD 6000 series, you have hardware AV1 decoding already. If you have a AMD 7000, Nvidia 40-series you also have an AV1 encoder. Pretty much if you bought your SmartTV or Smartphone device since 2021, it likely has the ability to decode AV1 in hardware.
It is a chicken-and-egg problem however, as hardware manufacturers have all supported h.265 for quite a while, and even Youtube has supported h265 for uploads for quite some time, it's just streaming it didn't. Twitch could get the jump on Youtube here if they roll out AV1 ingress first. Discord already supports AV1 streaming.
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Hi, thanks for flagging this and sharing your suggestion.
We share and understand your concerns about how the intentional, repeated misuse of tags can undermine the purpose of the tags product itself. Tags are an important discoverability feature for communities, and a powerful way for all Creators—but especially those that are underrepresented—to express their personal identity and creative vision for their content.
We also do not feel Twitch should be the judge of Creators’ personal or creative identity, so we typically only enforce against the misuse of tags when it is associated with other behavior that violates our Community Guidelines such as hateful conduct or harassment.
That said, as the VTuber community’s experience demonstrates, there are limitations to this approach and we are actively investigating additional steps we can take to protect and improve the integrity of the tags feature at scale, without infringing on good faith Creators’ personal choice…
An error occurred while saving the comment KisaiTenshi
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We fought so hard to get a vtuber tag so we can be discovered on the platform, only for the most hate-spewing streamers on the site to then use it to promote their hate.
If twitch is not going to enforce their search manipulation policies, then delete the existing tag system entirely so that it can't be abused at all.
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2,797 votesTwitch
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Just wanted to update this thread that we are doing an experiment right now with Stream Display Ads! These are less disruptive ads that allow viewers to see and hear Creators while being displayed. Creators will receive ad revenue for each SDA shown. You can find out more information here: https://twitter.com/TwitchSupport/status/1603148201489580032
An error occurred while saving the comment KisaiTenshi
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If I could make a suggestion, use a VAD (Voice Activity Detector) on the stream to determine if the stream is conversation or background noise, and then automatically run the full screen video ads when the stream has been silent for 15 seconds, or use the banner ads if there is audio playing and try detecting again in 5 minutes.
But more to the point having Twitch supporting more than one audio track can enhance this by having the streamer designate a track as "voice activity", that can double as a "music mute" switch.
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I think we should just split the difference.
Create a "Radio/Podcast/DJ/Karaoke" category. Any music played here is subject to licensing, and every track name played (eg a set list) must be sent to Twitch. If a streamer has a license from a rights agency, they will not get muted. The music will still be muted in the VOD (since that requires different rights), but any DMCA's will be sent directly to the streamer who claims to have a licence.
For all video games, link to the game's streaming guidelines if known. If a company (eg Microsoft, Square-Enix) has guidelines, then treat this as a license to stream the entire game. It should not be the streamer's responsibility to know what licensed music is in a game before playing it. No strikes for unknown copyright landmines.
For everything else (eg Just chatting, Reactions to youtube videos) treat music as incidental, "fair use" unless the streamer appears to be operating a jukebox outside the DJ/Radio station category.
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Pre-rolls are still super damaging on the platform. I would suggest removing the pre-roll entirely and only put it on the VOD side.
If a streamer hasn't opt'd into an ad program, then Twitch should analyze the previous streams to determine an algorithm:
- If a stream has long silent periods, use "fill silence with ads" algorithm
- If a stream has long "still image" periods, use "fill still image with ads" algorithm
- If a stream has high chat interactivity wait for clues in the chat that the streamer has BRB'd
Likewise, without invoking the Twitch API, just have /commercial function even if not an affiliate or partner.
But also build on that with /commercialbrb (eg run ads until /commercialback ) so that you can signal to twitch that it's safe to run ads during this time.