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NovusAngellite
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I'm tired, man... Generative AI has absolutely no place what-so-ever in any creative space, as it is built from the ground up off of scraping pre-existing material, then recobbling it together into some mass of algorithmic output.
I have already had to opt-out of AI related features within moments of going live and have blocked global emotes confirmed to have been generated by AI.
For what purpose?
Doesn't this open Amazon to possible mass lawsuits? How many video game companies would be against such a thing? They barely give us grace as it is. We already have TV and Movie studios watching Twitch with a magnifying glass. Music companies wait for just 3 notes of something they own to be played to mute your stream.
Surely this will only cause problems for everyone.
For me, a smaller streamer who's trying to find their place out here, this makes me want to just give up.
I am too old. I am too tired. I am more willing to get food from the soup kitchen than to get my grocery money from entertaining my community on twitch anymore.
If this comes out in full force, I am done.
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NovusAngellite
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Twitch using generative AI to replace their old [ART] category icon, which was honestly perfectly fine and relatively iconic at this point; is certainly an empty headed move.
The platform consists of countless artists Twitch could have contacted to replace the category icons for a reasonable contract and price. They literally have a Twitch Creatives club for goodness sake. Any member of that group would have been more than happy to make new icons for Twitch.
How many times do we have to bang this drum and ring the bell? The use of Generative AI sends a message of:
1) You do not care about the product/service/people
2) You're cheap
3) You have no confidence in the creatives within your own space
4) You do not care what damage the use of Gen AI doesI'm not even sure what to do about this in retaliation other than just not use the [ART] Category when doing art going forward until the icon is either changed back or replaced with human-made art. I can ban a Generative AI emote from my chat and community, but it's hard to ban the use of a Generative AI image from a category I regularly stream with.
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NovusAngellite
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I just noticed there's been negative feedback about this since April.
You're pushing this forward...why exactly?
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NovusAngellite
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You already decided the community deserves less earnings with the solid 50/50 rev split. Stop taking away the ability for folks other than your poster children to get any degree of earnings on your platform.
Before, the cut from bits while transferring to a paypal account was tolerable, though annoying since a cut was already taken from the person who purchased the bits in the first place. Now apparently a dollar worth of cheer gets the streamer less than 60 cents.
Not to mention the fact that alerts systems with Cheers would be assigned to Streamlabs, which has a shady history in their own rite with the whole Streamlabs OBS fiasco.
I cannot think of anyone who'd actually be on board with this. But what do you all care?
You don't have a good track record of listening to feedback unless it's going to legally bite you or hurt your bottom line.
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8,874 votes
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Hi, thanks for flagging this and sharing your suggestion.
We share and understand your concerns about how the intentional, repeated misuse of tags can undermine the purpose of the tags product itself. Tags are an important discoverability feature for communities, and a powerful way for all Creators—but especially those that are underrepresented—to express their personal identity and creative vision for their content.
We also do not feel Twitch should be the judge of Creators’ personal or creative identity, so we typically only enforce against the misuse of tags when it is associated with other behavior that violates our Community Guidelines such as hateful conduct or harassment.
That said, as the VTuber community’s experience demonstrates, there are limitations to this approach and we are actively investigating additional steps we can take to protect and improve the integrity of the tags feature at scale, without infringing on good faith Creators’ personal choice…
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NovusAngellite
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Facecam streamers make fun of vtubers all the time, call them losers, degenerates, cringe, whatever suits their rant in the moment; and yet now that vtubers are becoming popular they want to piggyback off the existence of the tag, hoping that people will just watch their content instead.
This isn't even just about the vtuber tag at this point. If you look at the tag, most of the people using it incorrectly are also using other tags just to get more coverage, such as "leatherwork" when the stream is about mario kart. Or the "Anime" tag when the stream has literally nothing to do with anime but is just a "walking around town IRL" facecam stream.
What is even the point in categorizing your stream in order to increase eyes on you with users who are looking for specific content, if this nonsense is allowed without so much as a slap on the wrist? And don't even get me started on the sexualized ASMR streams without an adult content warning on said stream.
It has been a month now, and it's become incredibly clear to all of us by now that Twitch and the parent company Amazon do not care about the input of the userbase.
They will not retract on the use of GenAI scraping and training. They will not avoid using GenAI for graphics across the website. They will continue doing everything they can to create a use-case for GenAI to keep that bubble going.
I have since packed up my Twitch Account and have begun to migration elsewhere. If you're a smaller content creator with a good support group, I recommend looking into alternative websites like Picarto (which has a Gaming section nowadays).
Be the change you want to see, because Twitch and Amazon are not going to do it. Monsters like this do not change unless you starve them.
Consider researching into alternatives as much as you can.
I will not be returning to the platform myself unless extensive changes are made. An ultimatum from someone like me may not be nothing on its own, but if enough people do it, there's a tiny chance something can happen.
It's been fun. But it's time to start over. Again.