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    We wanted to provide further context regarding this request as it is the most upvoted suggestion. There are several great use cases for providing the offset of Clips (including those above), but there are also ways in which it can be used negatively. For that reason, our initial decision was to no longer provide this information. With your feedback provided here, we are actively evaluating how to balance enabling good use of this information for creators while negating its potential for abuse. The status will be updated when we can share more information.

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    HostileBot commented  · 

    Any estimate on how many years out this is? I'll be sure to mark my calendar...

    It seems this was looked at back in April and Twitch decided within 30 minutes they wouldn't be adding it. Meanwhile developers have been supporting this for months with no further response.

    Twitch has been under fire recently, from its own leadership even, for losing touch with the community. They claim Twitch has been focusing on releasing new features, like paying to artificially promote channels and providing further incentive for streamers to run more ads, over supporting what the community actually wants.

    Part of the solution might be paying a little extra attention to the developers and providing the tools they need to create supplementary features to support the community more directly.

    Or you could keep putting maximum effort into brutally milking the cow... just remember you need to at least keep it alive, if not content, for that plan to work.

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    I don't know... Is getting clip context really that valuable? /s

  2. 20 votes

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    HostileBot commented  · 

    Twitch is restricting access to internal use only. It doesn't really make a lot of sense to me but they're doing it and at this point there's no stopping them. If you want the data, you'll need to scrape it. Is that incredibly annoying and highly inefficient? Absolutely. Will it support your use case? Probably not.

    I see chat data as an incredible resource for the community to provide valuable insight on user interaction during streams. It helps everyone to know at what points the audience was highly engaged, and I have no faith Twitch is going to release a feature around this which actually serves the community anytime soon. Their clip system is a mess and they clearly don't know how to feed videos to users. Any content that isn't live needs to be shared through a third party.

    YouTube is years ahead of Twitch on this, and they're catching up fast with live-streaming. To restrict data that would help the community and third-party developers make up for this difference is a losing move. Why watch a stream or VOD on Twitch when you can just watch the recap on YouTube? Maybe if Twitch made it easier to find moments of interest in multi-hour videos and view existing content on their own platform they could take some of this viewership back, but the changes in Helix show a prevailing theme - they intend to keep it locked down.

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    I agree, removing access to collected data that is streamed publicly seems pointless. Why force developers to log this on their own? This is one of the most crucial data points for a livestreaming service and it's just being removed outright? Hopefully someone can explain the reasoning.

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    HostileBot commented  · 

    In case anyone else is looking for this... you can use arrow keys (also 'J' and 'L') to go back/forward 10 seconds.

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    HostileBot commented  · 

    There was some discussion about implementing this for live streams some time ago, which is definitely more involved. Oddly enough, adding features to video playback seems to be lower on the priority list for some reason...

    You can always append a timestamp to the end of the video URL like this:

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1234567890?t=1h01m10s

    This will let you get second-level precision, which helps for the longer videos. Until recently, timestamps would only support multiples of 10s, so linking to specific moments in videos wouldn't work, but I think they fixed this.

    I know this doesn't provide as enjoyable a viewing experience as a simple rewind or skip forward button would, but again Twitch likely doesn't see much 'value' in video playback so support here will be unlikely.

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    I like this idea for other endpoints as well. For example, accessing chat logs, specifically through V5 video comments, is now on the chopping block. My use case relies heavily on analyzing this data, and while it will still be possible to use IRC to log messages in selected channels, this is highly inconvenient. If trustworthy developers could be given access to this data it would serve the community at large while avoiding malicious abuse.

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    The user list, or chatters, isn't updated frequently enough to provide much value anyway. It takes a minute or two to register a user joining/leaving. This has always been publicly accessible in any chat I've seen though, unless Twitch has added the option for channel owners to disable it.

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    HostileBot commented  · 

    This is still broken. Is this not getting attention because clips are not an ad space? You're just leaving garbage all over the floor...

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