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Hey!
First of all thanks a lot for putting this table together, this for sure will become handy when we research this further.
We’ve been wanting to revamp our Genres/Themes/Keywords for a while, it’s a fairly big undertaking that implies a taxonomy upgrade.
We’ve discussed making use of a sub categories to avoid redundancy and more accuracy for example.While this isn’t on our radar just yet, i would say it is pretty high up our list of feature upgrade. We’ll keep in touch when we start this project!
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@IGDB
Your own site's ability to sort games through combined Genre/Theme/Keywords is not the problem here. What you routinely fail to understand is that everyone downstream of you wants to be able to search their libraries via Genre. We want to select from our backlogs according to Genre. Everyone downstream of you expects genres to be in GENRES. Not scattered across multiple categories. Your system is utterly illogical and user hostile. The very way your site handles contribution comments is user hostile. Your failure to identify these problems and address them on your own, coupled to a manual verification process that frequently allows objectively false genre allocation as is from your pathetic selection on hand, betrays a distressing lack of competence.
You have had almost half a decade to address this. Move every single descriptive tag that describes a games actual genre into Genres. This is not difficult. It is not an undertaking. It is a solved problem. You have had four years and have done nothing. Every single downstream issue that compels people to complain to you still exists just like it did in the 201Xs. -
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IGDB has had four years to fix this. This isn't a large undertaking. It's a trivial issue to fix that could be done in a single site maintenance bulk edit. What exactly is the holdup?
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Shooter (STG), First Person Shooters (FPS), Third Person Shooters (TPS), Flight Combat, and Mech Combat, all need to be separated into different Genres in order for IGDB Genre metadata to not be worthless.
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You have had four. years. This is not a "fairly big undertaking". It is not the responsibility of a cabal of IGDB devs to declare what genres users can and cannot use. This is not a difficult problem to solve. You have the combined tagging power of the internet at your disposal and you're refusing to use it.
Moving ALL primary and subgenres and even vague mechanical categories of game into Genres is not an undertaking. It's a simple database commandline edit.
Moving ALL tonal and thematic descriptors to Theme is not an undertaking. It's a simple database commandline edit.
Having Genres in Keywords is not a solution.
Having entries such as Horror and Action be both a Theme and Genre, is not an issue. You have over-complicated and disastrously harmed all downstream UX. Redundancy is not an issue. "Vague" categories are not an issue, and anyone with even a passing familiarity with Wittgenstein should be able to understand that they are USEFUL. You have made it nearly impossible for everyone downstream of your metadata to search for games via genre, due to the simple fact that you are relegating genres to metadata categories that are not Genres.