Bad Raid Requirements
I just noticed the recent changes to people setting raids after a stream how the requirement is now pushed to minimum of 5 viewers and over. I have to say this in REALLY bad, because this hurts smaller streamers who might not have that many viewers watching their channel, only to see their own raids turn into hosts instead. This essentially cripples streamers ability to be noticed when they raid someone after finishing a stream, it was already bad enough when you crippled it so that people can't raid/host channels from 1 viewer, which is fine I guess, but to change the requirement to 5 viewers is bad overall.
I want to recognise the people who raid into me even if their viewership isn't that big, I don't want to see someone just show up as a host to my streams when they set a raid. it just makes their raids seem less significant. This is something that needs to be reverted to how it was before.
I keep seeing stupid changes like these being made on Twitch that make no sense at all without any careful consideration of what it ends up doing to streamers as a result. Case in point like how you were gonna force mid-roll ads on streams, and immediately people pointed out how bad that is.
Hey guys! We really appreciate the feedback that has been brought forth in this thread and just wanted to update you a little bit on what is going on.
This change was originally made to guard against raid bot attacks. While smaller raids are currently viewable in activity feed in the dashboard, we are working on a solution that treats raids equally while guarding against abuse tactics.
I raided my friends recently. People I know allow raids and have raid notifications but I had 3-4 people coming with me and there wasn't a single notification on the Twitch chat and didn't provide a notification on their end as well. This is disappointing, I would like to show my support to others regardless of my size.
Viewers who are raiding with small parties are being undermined here as well. Why bother doing it if they won't see the alert?
Fact is, there are facilities available so you choose either who can raid you or the minimum party size to trigger an alert. If partners are complaining about raids, they're clearly not using the facilities properly or are unaware of them at all, and I really hope this isn't the case
Completely underhanded sneaky way of Twitch practically telling smaller streamers they don't matter.
If you insist on implementing a threshold, at least MAKE IT OPTIONAL in our own account settings. I get that some Partners don't want the "spam", but I'm sure the majority of Streamers on your platform would rather see and acknowledge every Raid no matter how "small".
this is just stupid thing to do. shows small streamers that they dont matter
All raids count and all should give a notification.
Maybe add an option to turn off notifications from smaller raids if needed but don’t make so they don’t show at all.
Stop discriminating against smaller streamers.
Please leave the content creators with the control over their CHANNEL!! Do not auto shove requirements on us without giving us a way to configure them to the settings we want.
100% agree! Disabling small raids only hinders small streamers. Could there be a configurable setting to pick your channel's raid minimum threshold maybe? Let the large streamers set it to 5 but allow the rest of us to keep it low?
Raiding, even with few viewers, is a critical part of engaging with fellow streamers and building a community on Twitch. I personally LOVE getting tiny raids because it shows that the person was thinking about me! I LOVE sending tiny raids because it's a way to show support for others!
Twitch team, please remember that Twitch shouldn't just be about the huge streamers with thousands of views. The rest of us are here too :)
this new thing that raids dont count unless you bring 5 or more viewers is a damaging decision towards smaller streamers trying to make their way up raiding people with 3 or 4 was how i built a viewer base in the first place and now if i dont have enough people its like we dont even matter these decisions on behalf of twitch are slowly making it seem that twitch is only Partner centric and not caring about any other streamers but partners
Certainly the people I've raided into when I've been under the threshold have all stated they'd rather have known about it, and have turned to ensuring they always have the activity feed open when they wouldn't have had to before.
It puts smaller streamers like myself off raiding at all, when prior to the change it helped grow my audience and got me to affiliate in the first place. And now I always have the activity feed open on my phone; I want those smaller raids to get the attention they deserve, even if it means doing a raid alert manually.
Necesitamos que se notifiquen las raids y los hosts a pesar de la cantidad. No todos los canales tenemos una cantidad inmensa de espectadores o, incluso, hay quienes recién empiezan a stremear por este medio. Si no quieren mostrar, al menos denos la opción de configurar a partir de qué número se puede notificar. No echen de lado a nadie.
It's bad for both sides. Seemingly unannounced change and unknown to nearly everyone. From a 2 person minimum to a 5 person minimum for the raid alert to show in chat.
Streamers don't get to welcome new arrivals and may appear as if they are ignoring the raid.
Raiders can feel like they aren't wanted and why bother raiding unless you have double digits (there's no way for them to know the limit is 5).
I can share this from today. I messaged a raider after checking the activity list before a stream ended and saw they had just raided with a party of 3, a few mins before. I explained the change with twitch, the limit of 5 ppl raids and apologised on behalf of the streamer for not acknowledging it.
I got this later.
"Oohh that’s okay! Thank you for letting me know! It was the first time I raided so I wasn’t sure if it worked. Thank you sooo much."
Recently, small raids (under 5 viewers) stopped showing up in chat, which excludes small streamers from getting recognized by the streamer. For large streamers it makes sense to set the limit to a higher number, but smaller streamers may want to acknowledge even a 1 or 2 person raid. Letting mods change this setting on the fly will prevent a possible raid notification spam