Laut der SUISA (Schweiz) ist man schon vor einer Einigung, ähnlich wie auf MIXCLOUD ein System zu nutzen?

Es müsste doch für Musikliebhaber auf allen Seiten möglich sein eine Lösung zu finden, dabei wäre eine "Premium Funktion" doch sinnvoll. Wer Musik nutzen möchte, zahlt monatlich einen Beitrag mehr, also der Nutzende und der Konsumierende. Davon profitieren alle, auf Mixcloud funktioniert dies einwandfrei.

Aber wie ist das? Ich sende 1x monatlich aus einem offiziellen Radio Studio, das Lizenzen bezahlt, sprich also auch meine Sendung. Sollte ich ja keine Strikes erhalten?

Gebt DJs bitte auch eine Plattform.... wir brauchen euch und ihr braucht uns! Vor allem jetzt in dieser schweren Zeit blutet unser Musikherz!

Hello The idea is in general ,
You as a company could turn this around in a bigger picture ,
here is how you go about this Pitch the idea of using Twitch / Amazon as new way to drive sales for Record labels .
How it would work ,
Twitch gets a new part of the UI/UX where the music played in the stream this would be basically be literally a piece of the UX UI that would link to the store where the user could buy 1 song the whole albums , CDs , Vinil, etc .
why is this an approach if a viewer likes the music and they hear it on a contents creators stream they are more inclined to buy , if you manage to figure out how to provide part of the cut to Partners and affiliates even better .
Record labels get a cut , Twitch gets a cut , creators get a cut . win win win . additionally if you can manage some how a way how content creators can purchase this music at a discount its the biggest win situation .
Record labels get Advertisement for free get money from sales , Twitch partners up with labels , and creators can earn a small bit of the pie. and in the end i am sure you can figure out also how to push it more in to sales like you can pick out partners that can do advertisement for new records if they get published . Think about it

First off Twitch, you are very wrong if you think that I or many other affiliate streamers who receive zero exposure from your algorithms are worried about DMCA. Maybe the big streamers are more easily influenced by their contractual obligations, but not the rest of the community who make no profit or gain by streaming on your platform.

Secondly, let's start off with a little about the music industry and licensing itself. As a founder and operator of an online radio station, I have paid alone in licensing/royalties over 8 years close to $10,000. I am a firm believer that musicians and songwriters should be paid. Sadly enough, only a very tiny percentage of that money paid in to licensing gets to the songwriters and musicians. Ask any musician in Nashville trying to break into the industry and they will tell you they make less than $2/month. Why is licensing a radio station important? If you are using someone else's music for a profit or gain, it's very important to have a license and pay royalties. The more profit you make, the more royalties you pay. This is how to avoid copyright infringement and to be fair. I'm stating some of the obvious here for a reason. The Twitch Streaming platform is a bit different from a radio station. The platform is not a radio station itself. The content on Twitch varies majorly, from artwork to gaming, to IRL Chat, to DJs playing music. Your email had an interesting bit of information that over 99% of the notifications were for music in the background playing. Why is that? This should be a clear indicator while there are some streamers that play music/DJ/compose as part of their stream, most streamers do not focus on music as the centerpiece of their streams for profit hence 99% "in the background". When you watch streams and see subs and donations, the comments associated with the subs and donations say it all. They go to the streamer for THEIR time and content, whether it be painting pictures, playing their viewers favorite game, etc. The background music has no relevance in their success and profitability. The whole point of DMCA was to combat copyright infringement, the process of taking someone else's work and using it for profit or gain. Why are YOU TWITCH worried about DMCA? Do you think we are dumb to believe that "you were surprised" that this sudden increase in May had anything to do with Covid and the move from real world to virtual and increase in streaming?

Third, while other platforms saw a significant increase during Covid-19, your viewership while having a short incline is now falling for most streamers. You've lost streamers to other platforms. Don't think we streamers and viewers did not see this. Your platform is simply becoming less beneficial to most people whether streamers or viewers. Your insistent forcing of commercials by spending time, money, and resources to thwart viewers ad-blocking technology is driving your viewers away but you don't even bother to stop the constant harassing of bots in our chatrooms begging us to buy follows for our channels. When the viewers go away, so does the revenue for the bigger streamers. The bigger streamers then move to another platform. You also consistently ban hard working streamers with double standards in your rules, allowing other streamers who break the same rules a 2nd, a 3rd, and a 5th chance. You appoint a board with members who have serious mental issues. So again, tell me why you think we are worrying again?

You may want to rethink your strategy and work hard to secure an agreement with the labels and entities filing DMCA takedowns to lay off the 99% of the streamers not profiting from music in their streams, or there will be legal action against the PROs and entities who only pay a majority of starving musicians less than $2/month in the billions of dollars royalties they [record labels and any other entity filing DMCA takedowns] collect. Don't believe me?? Ask any starving musician in Nashville.

Twitch, you better figure out which side of the fence you want to be on because this is going to end badly for someone, and it won't be the streamers. That's not an idea. That's a promise.

[Edit: "they" = the record labels and organizations filing the DMCA takedowns]

Most game's have licensed music like RDR2 or other games that have music imbedded in at the start middle or otherwise in the game, being muted or getting a strike or muted because of in-game music is a bit wrong when it's outta the streamers hand's no matter how much we minimize thing's like that do happen!! Take a step back for a bit and make sure it's worth a copy right strike!! Those of us that stream the game with no music except for what we can't help during the game shouldn't have to worry about being banned or getting a strike!! We do not intend to break the law's or rules we just play the game and have fun and enjoy chat!!

Not so much an idea, but I and dozens of my DJ friends only signed up with Twitch, because we're all out of work from the pandemic, and livestreaming DJ sets was our only outlet at this time. We don't even really make any profit, short of a few bucks from donations. This is mainly for therapy.

And most of the DJ's I know, don't even play mainstream/top 40 music in our sets. Is there any other legal options, besides doing private Zoom parties, or signing up for a premium Mixcloud account for us? I've been doing a weekly Sunday stream of obscure 80's Japanese music, and I've never had any kind of warning emails. This is all news to me.

Currently, it is hopelessly impractical for streamers to do what they do best, entertain with back ground music filling the silence between moments when they game or interact, while the danger of blanket copyright strikes resulting in forced stream and VOD censoring exists. If twitch wants this to work effectively, they have to fight for it. This could mean hiring legal experts, and/or lobbyists to work to implement something similar to the Fair Use Act under US law in the long term, but in the mean time I've prepared a suggestion or two that should help the situation if implemented.

Currently, the way the copyright issue works prevents any use whatsoever of music or content whose copyright is owned by someone else, and its use is often contested by automation, not by direct interaction, this is inadequate for protecting livestreamers, as it often results in mass automated over-reactions of the algorithms which twitch and copyright owners rely on to police the use of their content, as these algorithms are not fully capable of analyzing the contextual elements of each individual instance of alleged copyright infringement, simply put, the algorithms not smart enough, and it never can be, because its not a person.

Here is how you solve this problem. The automated system of copyright claiming must be removed and replaced with good old fashioned manpower, forcing copyright owners to MANUALLY issue copyright complaints which must be MANUALLY reviewed by twitch staff/moderators, in order to do away with algorithm censoring. This would mean hiring/tasking staff who can objectively and contextually review streamer content on a ticket by ticket basis to determine whether or not the copyrighted content is being used by the streamer in a manner, that fits the exact legal terminology of copyright law.

An expedient and effective means of contesting copyright claims must also be implemented for streamers to make use of. While copyright owners may lose money in the meantime, assuming their claims of infringement are well founded, streamers and smaller content creators often cannot afford the required downtime needed to contest or appeal a claim of this nature through the currently available methods.

Twitch is a service provider, as such, twitch should be the first one to go to bat for people making use of their service, it shouldn't be censoring their content first and asking questions of context later, this may be more expedient on twitch's end, but it can be the difference between success and failure in the streaming world on a content creator's end. Put simply, twitch has resources, most streamers don't, so don't pass the buck, step up, and do the work, so streamers can keep making you money.

This particular issue is not something that can be automated, not in the complaint filing, or processing aspects, without severely hampering streamers ability to create content. To fix this problem, you must put butts in the seats, and do the work the hard way. It will be thankless, and god awfully difficult, but your community will love you for it.

I feel like this should have been a given from the start, but apparently not.

WHEN YOU SEND OUT THE INFRINGEMENT NOTIFICATIONS TWITCH, PROVIDE MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE INFRINGEMENT.

Don't just give us "information about the allegedly infringed work, who the claimant is, how the claimant can be contacted, and possible penalties under our repeat infringer policy", give us NOT ONLY names and links to affected clips and VODs, but also TIMESTAMPS FOR EACH INFRINGEMENT.

This information would provide users with a better ability to not only find the content that was allegedly infringed upon, but would allow users to dispute incorrect claims more efficiently because we all know that robots, while correct some portion of the time, are not perfect, and people will take advantage of any inconsistencies they can find within the system to create false claims for streamers they may not like.