Music Licensing
Rather than mute or penalize streamers for streaming copyrighted content, license music from record labels so that streamers can legally stream the music.
ganso_tonto
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11 comments
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Clownspaz
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I have permission from a record label to use the music they produce who do i get in contact with?
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XORCIST_official
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Actually... Twitch... What are you doing? You HAVE AN ASCAP LICENSE! I checked. Legally, we, the users, are allowed to LIVESTREAM DJ/VJ sets as well as have music on in the background with the caveat that after the stream, we can not save or archive the VOD file. That's it. So why is this an issue here?
I can only guess you're somehow obtaining a revenue flow from the music industry and you're getting strong-armed? DMCA should not even be an issue here. How do I know? Because I used to run a website with an ASCAP license that's how. The only rule was you couldn't play certain artists in a row or perhaps a live concert recording of them. So seriously.... what's going on here?
As for MixCloud, yes, that $15 a month most likely is going to what's called a SYNCHONIZATION LICENSE which is what you need to legally archive such recordings.
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djosofresh
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To the folks who think its difficult to get liscencing permissionm i ask, how did Mixcloud do it? with a monthly fee of $15, you can stream without interruption and without any copyright issues... Their onlydrawbackis not beingable to save the video of your stream... yet... it's doable
side note: every artist or musician i know personally (in the hundreds) many with music selling worldwide have said they have no issues with DJs spinning their music live, but you cant give individual copyright permission and the muting on some random "we're playing it safe and muting this portion" ********. I know people who have gotten muted for playing their own music
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Pteraspidomorphi
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There is a single industry association responsible for this mess - the RIAA. They're the ones using literal botnets to send thousands of strikes against content producers all over the internet. Since it's just one entity, I'm sure it's possible to reach a deal that's favorable to all parts. Compliance with the law for takedowns sent by smaller, less aggressive labels can be achieved in the normal manner.
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ThomasHarrell
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The problem is that how the music industry collects and licenses music is a minefield. You cannot simply purchase a license for "all of Twitch to stream your music". If Twitch buys a license, it covers only a narrow circumstance. If a streamer on Twitch uses that music, well per the music industry they need a different type of license (and the cost of that is ridiculous). Their entire business model at this point seems to be based on how many people they can smash in court rather than being cooperative.
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busybyte
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So many people would be so happy about this solution.
Twitch, copyright-holders, creators, audience, and most of the music-industry.
Most of us streamers and /or dj's are absolutely willing to pay for legal streaming, but there's still no option. -
Mavyre
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Seems to be ongoing in France with the national pro
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shanam
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True
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Rizotochaud
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Well, Facebook Gaming did it for their partner streamers, and now they can freely use music from Universal Music Group, Warner Music Group, Sony Music Entertainment, Kobalt Music Group, BMG Publishing, Merlin... that makes a pretty large choice of popular artists.
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brykanst
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use that ad revenue that you are forcing to "benefit" streamers to contact every label and make agreements with them greedy little *****
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VirtualNightclub
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That's a lot easier said than done. it would require an army of lawyers to contact ever single record label both domestic and overseas to secure such rights -- and then to maintain such agreements for the foreseeable future. And even that doesn't account for the hundreds of thousands of indie and unsigned artists which would also need to be individually cleared.