Bad Raid Requirements
I just noticed the recent changes to people setting raids after a stream how the requirement is now pushed to minimum of 5 viewers and over. I have to say this in REALLY bad, because this hurts smaller streamers who might not have that many viewers watching their channel, only to see their own raids turn into hosts instead. This essentially cripples streamers ability to be noticed when they raid someone after finishing a stream, it was already bad enough when you crippled it so that people can't raid/host channels from 1 viewer, which is fine I guess, but to change the requirement to 5 viewers is bad overall.
I want to recognise the people who raid into me even if their viewership isn't that big, I don't want to see someone just show up as a host to my streams when they set a raid. it just makes their raids seem less significant. This is something that needs to be reverted to how it was before.
I keep seeing stupid changes like these being made on Twitch that make no sense at all without any careful consideration of what it ends up doing to streamers as a result. Case in point like how you were gonna force mid-roll ads on streams, and immediately people pointed out how bad that is.
Hey guys! We really appreciate the feedback that has been brought forth in this thread and just wanted to update you a little bit on what is going on.
This change was originally made to guard against raid bot attacks. While smaller raids are currently viewable in activity feed in the dashboard, we are working on a solution that treats raids equally while guarding against abuse tactics.
Twitch, you guys have ruined the endings to my stream. Why would it even cross anybody's mind to make this change. Im highly ****** off about this.
My stream used to end with a raid every day. I don't have a lot of viewers. But we look forward to raid time every day. Today we ended with sad faces as there was absolutely no point in raiding. Defiantly killed a day of smiles and being dumb. So, tomorrow? Who knows. Just seems like a bad move. Funny that we all looked forward to the end of stream. This move must be motivated by money of course, although I can't see how. Otherwise it would never have come up. Either way, would like it changed back. :/
I also agree with everyone else commenting here. I've gotten a large boost in popularity and helped other smaller streamers simply because of small raids, especially moreso if it's just me. Other smaller streamers recognize that I too am I streamer without even having to boast or promote myself from their stream. They're excited to have me in their community regardless of how small theirs may be and we both build our communities together by following each other. This new raid requirement hinders that connection and causes confusion with the mass of smaller streamers about raids, interrupting their own content and brand to figure out why their raid notification did not trigger.
Myself as well as others voiced their opinions on this and will continue to do so if Twitch wants to continue being the largest streaming platform in the world. #AllRaidsMatter
This is just a bad move on Twitchs part. Some people are already discouraged from raiding out when they don't have more than a few viewers.
This is a bad practice, I have raided out of every stream I have ever done. From 1 viewer to 500, a raid is a raid. I appreciate all of the small raids I have ever gotten.
Fix this Twitch. #AllRaidsMatter
We should not have to have a certain number to support or fellow streamers, small or big.
This is ridiculous. I work hard to get where I am but have friends that sometimes have small raids and I still want to know. At least put it in the activity feed at a minimum.
this is a terrible idea ESPECIALLY since smaller streamers (like me!) starting out are probably not going to like raiding someone and have it be considered a host. or having it not even be acknowledged
What's going to happen is the small streamers are going to leave. And that will affect the big streamers too. Because some of those small streamers are viewers of those big streamers.
Same. I get very few viewers. If I'm not even important enough then why should I even give a **** about Twitch?
Such a bad idea. Streamers like me will be hurt. I get 1/2 viewers and is nice even if someone raids you with 2 viewers.
For someone who runs a Gaming community along with a discord sever that fully supports other streams, some raids we do may have small numbers because of timezone or time of day. Any of my streamers would love and appreciate a raid for 2 people anything to 100000 people. A raid is a raid, its deserves to be pointed out to the streamer and it makes them feel good.
You cant take away form small streamers what makes them carry on.
There are a lot of comments here that are super cringe, but I have to agree that this API nerf seems pointless. Whether you use Streamlabs or Stream Elements (or perhaps there are others) there are ways through those services for the streamer to dictate what does or does not trigger an alert. There is simply no logical reason for Twitch to be intervening in this process.
This is very unfair for smaller streams. We don't all have 3,000 viewers or even 10 at times. All communities should matter!
Very annoying, I love to raid streamers who I love to watch, because I want to share that with my viewers. However, I average 2-3 viewers per stream, so no notification means they don't feel the love.
Small streams need love too, and an army of followers is built one loyal person at a time. #AllRaidsMatter
There's just no reason to do this. If larger streams want to have the option to turn off notification for raids under a certain size, sure, give them the option to do that if they feel it is best for their stream. Most people are not going to do that! For the vast majority, streamers understand that community, networking, supporting each other, are the best ways to grow both for large and small streams. You're taking the option out of our hands to run our stream how we want to. That's going to push people away.
This is ridiculous and is absolutely going to kill small time streamers and make it incredibly difficult to grow as well as show support for others. A lot of times that raid of 4 literally doubles my viewer count, and a number 2-3 person raids can add up and those streamers that bring them I want to acknowledge and get my viewers and the ones from other raids following them as well. I understand the technical reason but this is an area that tech needs to submit to design, or work for a better solution that doesn't harm the end user. For example, why not allow streamers to set raid notification limits on the channel level, similar to the streamlabs alert box limit?
My partner and I have been on twitch as active users for many years, countless subscriptions and enjoyment of big and small streamers. My spouse started streaming barely a week and a half ago, then I started not long after. My spouse already hit affiliate and is averaging 8+ viewers since the start. We've continually seen this issue with raids and its very upsetting, we've formed a tight bond with a lot of other small and new streamers and sometimes those raids are under 5 and get lost, no one knew what was going on. With the raided channel often having to apologize and toss it up to "Twitch has been weird lately" while the raiders have to worry they did something wrong or aren't getting noticed. How is this supposed to help a new streamer grow? I want to acknowledge anyone who raids my stream, and all those I've met feel the same way. This seems like a negligent way to optimize server raid calls when you're hindering new and wonderful people from gaining a foundation. Causing confusion, and essentially dividing the big from the small. This absolutely needs to be called out and addressed.
this literally happened to me. I sent a raid of about 3-4 people to someone else and it didn't show up, and both I and the streamer were very confused. I was also a little upset that it "glitched", but now I'm more upset that this was changed on purpose! how are small streamers like myself supposed to help & be helped by other small streamers??? SO not user friendly...
How many Sigz do you need?
esto es realmente injusto