Bad Raid Requirements
I just noticed the recent changes to people setting raids after a stream how the requirement is now pushed to minimum of 5 viewers and over. I have to say this in REALLY bad, because this hurts smaller streamers who might not have that many viewers watching their channel, only to see their own raids turn into hosts instead. This essentially cripples streamers ability to be noticed when they raid someone after finishing a stream, it was already bad enough when you crippled it so that people can't raid/host channels from 1 viewer, which is fine I guess, but to change the requirement to 5 viewers is bad overall.
I want to recognise the people who raid into me even if their viewership isn't that big, I don't want to see someone just show up as a host to my streams when they set a raid. it just makes their raids seem less significant. This is something that needs to be reverted to how it was before.
I keep seeing stupid changes like these being made on Twitch that make no sense at all without any careful consideration of what it ends up doing to streamers as a result. Case in point like how you were gonna force mid-roll ads on streams, and immediately people pointed out how bad that is.
Hey guys! We really appreciate the feedback that has been brought forth in this thread and just wanted to update you a little bit on what is going on.
This change was originally made to guard against raid bot attacks. While smaller raids are currently viewable in activity feed in the dashboard, we are working on a solution that treats raids equally while guarding against abuse tactics.
Yeah, there has to be a better solution, small raids are so important for building your community and supporting other streamers...
I understand the requirement to guard against raid bot attacks, but there must be another solution. For small streamers the small raids are essential for building communities and for bigger streamers they show appreciation.
As all streamers are able to configure their default notification limits: please re-enable the old behaviour. Thanks
I'm also a small streamer. I'm raiding mostly with 2-4 viewers but sometimes even with 7. But with these 3-person raids I've discovered and build a community with several other streamers, boosting all our viewer numbers in the process. With this change that's... kinda ruined. There's no appreciation anymore. And it's always weird when everybody is saying "Raid!!" and the Alert says "XYZ is hosting you!"
1. Twitch could give us a setting that allows us to choose from what numbers raids trigger alerts in chat. Alerts wise streamlabs etc have that covered on their end too.
2. if Bots are the issue then DEAL with the bots instead of imposing stupid "rules" on your own platform that make people ****** off.
Bots have been A PLAGUE on twitch since they were allowed a while back EVERYTIME we start streaming there's an entire LEAGUE of bots in our chats and we have NO ways of getting rid of them.
As a smaller streamer i would love for this to be fixed.
Whoever thought this up needs to be kicked in the shin. As a small streamer, sometimes a raid under 5 people still DOUBLES my viewership. That's huge for me, and I want to celebrate it! Give us back our notifications!
This is a terrible idea and does not support small streamers who are trying to grow their community. My average is 8 viewers but today was a quiet stream with 4 people watching and the raid message did not go through. VERY bad decision.
I am still a small streamer with just about 7 average viewers. This change is a massive pain ********** because I don't want to look at how many people are viewing at a time when I decide to raid someone. It is completely beyond me how Twitch can neglect the people who offer content to Twitch's viewers so much.
I'm a small streamer, and I average around 3-7 viewers a stream. I cherish every one of my viewers in my little community, and think that each one of them brings something unique to the chat. Having said that, when I announce a raid, a few of them understandably head out. With these new raid requirements it means that my raids will almost never get noticed, making it extremely more difficult for me to network and grow as a streamer. Does Twitch want people to grow their channels and provide more revenue for the streamer and platform, or is Twitch just trying to lock in the current status quo of partners/large streamers vs small streamers?
This is just a ridiculous, boneheaded decision from a business standpoint. The ONLY explanation I can see for Twitch enacting this is that they not only don't care about small streamers, but actually have some sort of weird disdain for them. FIX IT NOW.
This is an insult to smaller streamers. Getting affiliate sometimes takes a long time. And sending raids to starting streamers can help them with this. You need an average of 3 to hit affiliate, but now raiding <5 won't be recognized anymore?! How about helping out the smaller ones! Instead of kicking in someone's glasses with this new ""feature"".
A host is so much less than a raid. Every streamer that I see that gets a raid, cheers up. If they have 1 viewer or 200. They all get happy when someone raids them. Why take that away from people? Bad move Twitch. Bad move.
WTF Twitch...can you like...idk...let us determine on our channels what the raiding requirements need to be for raid?
This is so... *******... STUPID
It is very dumb system and very terrible idea too! ...lower the bar back to 2 viewers please! It just makes the very smaller streamers very unfair! I only have 2 - 4 viewers per stream....I love raiding other streamers afer I stream!
It is very dumb system and very terrible idea too! ...lower the bar back to 2 viewers please! It just makes the very smaller streamers very unfair! I only have 2 - 4 viewers per stream....I love raiding other streamers afer I stream!@
I think this is a bug more than anything else. But it still needs to be fixed as soon as possible. Right now small streamers are getting gimped by this a lot, it makes it very hard for them to grow.
How can small streamer like us help one another then? This stagnates our growth and only benefits bigger streamers / partners.
Who in their right mind thought this could possibly be a good move. You're just taking power away from creators. We already had the ability to set a thresholds for Raid alerts. Give it back!
This is such a meaningless move. To manually adjust this from 1 to 5 is Petty AF. All I can see this doing is trying to create some form of "elitist" mindset within the "Community" that doesn't get your hands dirty directly. As someone on the outside looking in, I can see your Ambassador Program is a joke. You want to look like you care without putting in any effort. This specific topic is another red flag indicating that.
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I don't stream for any kind of money reason. I do it to work on my people skills and you are not helping at all by trying to make stupid regulations like this. If you are that bored why not work on making "Audio Only" available on desktop? Fix your stability issues and stop forcing resolutions in streams. Or just take the time to listen to other people who are a lot smarter than i am about your platform and your community guidelines.
I'm quite glad this post blew up, and people are 100% with smaller streamers with so much positive feedback, and I hope Twitch does listen and actually roll this stupid decision back. They don't need to intervene with how many people are in raids/hosts notification feeds as that can all be done on the Streamer's side with their Alert Notifications by setting the minimum for their alerts, these features are already available in Streamlabs, Streamelements, Muxy, Nightbot, Moobot, and many others, it doesn't need to be enforced on Twitch's end.
For everyone else who sees this post, please do reshare it, and upvote it, because this severely impacts smaller streamers.
That is just dumb, I have been raiding channels almost from every stream what I have done with 1-X raiders, now when I have been raiding usually 3-5 raiders or sometimes even above, they don't have been showing up. I thought that removing of those some game categories was dumbest thing what they have done but this not notifying from under 5 raiders raid is something that I can't understand.