Do not deprecate hosts.
There was a notice put out about hosts becoming deprecated next month.
This is an awful idea. Do not do this.
The reason given for doing it is clear and obvious deflection; it's false. No one with average viewership under like 6000 uses twitch chats as a community server; when someone is offline, that's it. Their attention is off the chat and elsewhere. The idea that hosts prevent interactions with streamers is complete bull.
Moreover, raids are not a direct replacement for hosts (most people don't even -know- this because this fact has been so thoroughly obfuscated,) because of the referral ID causing a viewer to not count to the raided channel for ad or partnership metrics. Hosting was an incredibly useful -community building tool- on twitch; you host into another channel, that user notes you down, they host into you and share their audience in a way that actually contributes useful numbers beyond "was a viewer". Raiding does not do this. Raiding is an anti-growth tool. Viewers might follow and check someone out again following a raid, but many are there primarily just because a streamer raided them over and have no interest in staying; hosts, because they required active interaction with the hosted channel were more likely to stay because it tested viewer interest.
Hosting was and still is an invaluable community tool. To remove it and not provide its actual functionality to raids is extremely anti-user.
Hello everyone! Thank you for coming together to bring us your feedback on Hosts. We made the decision to remove this feature because it consistently confuses viewers–particularly new viewers or those who are less familiar with Twitch–because they don’t realize the channel they visited is hosting another stream and also they cannot interact with the hosted streamer in chat.
We also hear your feedback and acknowledge the need for community building tools that help promote other streamers. We’ve recently introduced the following features that help you do that:
- We recently released a feature called shoutout that lets you promote another streamer’s channel in your chat and makes it easy for your viewers to follow that channel without leaving your stream. To initiate the shoutout during your stream, use the chat command “/shoutout [channel]” - viewers who do not follow the channel will see a pop-up with a follow button for that channel. If the streamer has an upcoming stream in their schedule, the shoutout will also highlight their next scheduled stream with a button to set a reminder to watch.
- Recommend another stream to viewers when you are offline by adding them to your Suggested Channels list in your channel settings (formerly known as your “Autohost list”). When their channel is live, their stream will appear in the carousel at the top of the page. You can also display your suggested streamers list in your streamer shelf.
We appreciate the feedback you’ve shared, and look forward to new suggestions that help your communities connect with one another.
they literally never even acknowledged us
Everyone has been complaining about it being gone and when you annouced it was getting taken away we expressed displeasure I feel like I can speak for everyone when I say we are being ignored as streamers! Do better! Listen!! We are tired of being ignored!!
I'm not allowed to edit the suggestion anymore - probably because it's about a month old - but they have since, with no acknowledgement of this or the rest of the public reaction to it - deprecated hosts, and I Quite Hate It.
I cannot stand having to use Raids. They do not do what I want them to do, and it's frustrating.
I agree with everything MDCT wrote above. The simple fact of the matter is that the absence of the Host feature makes Twitch a worse service than it was before, for viewers and streamers alike. Twitch users lost a valuable tool today and gained nothing in return. Please reinstate the Host feature as soon as possible.
I've found so many different cool streamers through hosting specifically, and next to none from raids. Please give hosting back, it's so much more useful and valuable
The cowards heading up Twitch couldn't even bother responding to the very public negative response towards removing hosting. It was a great feature! Streamers used it to show support for other communities when they were offline themselves! You're shooting yourself in the foot here, Twitch.
Despite having an overwhelmingly negative public response - visible on this very site, even - Twitch deprecated hosting mode, an extremely valuable community-building tool, especially for smaller streamers.
There is no tool currently that fully replaces its usage in all its forms. Unless an alternative - or, better yet, just re-introduce its functionality improved - is made, streamers have lost a valuable part of their kit for boosting the viewership of all of their community of streamers, whether that be their team, friends, co-workers, or even just others in their favorite category or tag or whatever.
The short notice and absolute silence in its removal it beyond an (obviously false) claim that it "did not deliver the experience users expect out of Twitch" despite its integral part in Discovery for streamers for the past SIX YEARS were insulting to your userbase.
Other social tools being introduced around this time are nice, but the removal of hosting mode was absurd. It should be reversed immediately.
You might as well remove vods too because Viewers want to interact with a streamer when they’re live. Vods are "Preventing viewers from interacting with the streamer they’re watching also limits a streamer’s growth potential because they’re not able to build meaningful connections with those new viewers." It's stupid!!! If you get rid of hosting you are getting rid of a big part that helped me grow.
Please reconsider removing hosting. I’ve met great creative creators that way
Sad we are one day away and there hasn't been a single comment from Twitch about this. This is one of the dumbest moves I've seen them do right next to the changes in how auto-hosting worked. Not even a single staff member willing to come out and talk about this, all the discussion I've seen defending it was from former staff on twitter. Pathetic.
Please let us still host it gives everyone a positive way to grow their channels
I know many people have already expressed their opinions on the host removal on Oct 3. My simple request/suggestion is that Twitch reflects on the reasons behind this removal. Twitch's official statement included that "[hosting can limit] growth potential because they're not able to build meaningful connections with those new viewers." I do not understand how spreading support to other communities and promoting others to give back to each other can "limit" growth. If anything, it promotes the opportunity to explore new communities and meet new streamers. That is how smaller streamers expand their community and meet new people. This removal completely destroys an outlet for Twitch users to connect and explore. If Twitch really believes that this is best, what new feature will be developed to fill in the Hosting gap? Hosting is a great feature so the removal of this feature could create an imbalance for the platform. I am writing this not criticize but to help. If Twitch cares about its viewers and content creators, the company should be aware of the impact these decisions have on the people they want to support. Will be looking forward to hearing about what Twitch will do to balance out the removal of Hosting.
I frequently have a viewer who doesn't stream host my channel. As a streamer, this is encouraging to me, as it shows that the person in question likes what I do enough to go out of their way to host. It's a positive interaction,. It tells me that I'm doing something right. When I come across a streamer, particularly a smaller streamer, that could use the viewership, I will host them. It absolutely helps!
I'd love to know exactly which person at Twitch thought this was a good idea, and what illicit substance they were on when they had the idea so I know to avoid it at any costs.
I love to host streamers when I am offline. And I also join streamers if I see a host on someones page when they are offline themself. So it only helps. Also when I sleep. People who visit my page will have someone to watch. I love the host. And don't want it to disapear. Raids can not replace it. And recommended also not. Recommended is nice but not the same. Keep the host up!
Hosting small streamers is a way to help the smallies gain exposer. Please, keep this option open and available.
The small streamers need the help and assistance from others to gain the audience and move on to upper levels.
As said in the article, Hosting is a VERY valuable option and will assist in helping twitch users who may have a small community grow bigger and assist in bring more revenue to the platform.
If Twitch does discontinue this level, the lack of different and new streamers bringing the ad revenue in to the platform may and could level the availability for TWITCH and the limit the ideals of TWITCH to that of FPSers and sexual availabilities in the minds of future affiliates and revenue achievers on the platform.
Also, I would be hard pressed to believe that eliminating the hosting option when it comes to being off line, would be beneficial to TWITCH. Again, saying this, Hosting would bring larger light to the small streamers community and also, in a financial aspect would assist in more streamers being recognized with both the twitch platform and future ad revenue obtained while those who may be NEW to the platform watch and then decide to stream on twitch... bringing more revenue to everyone involved.
I mostly disagree that /shoutout is opted as a replacement. It's not. We -ALL- have shoutout commands through our bots already so having just that one command through Twitch doesn't make sense.
The reasoning behind deprecating hosts also doesn't make sense to me. If you feel that there's an element of interaction missing, why not change hosting into having the option to host just a channel's video or host their video + their chat? That way even when you end up on the channel that is hosting another channel, you can still interact with chat. There even could be a highlight message for mods mentioning that this user is chatting from another channel, which to me sounds great for some nice interaction between streamer and chatter. So please, don't cancel hosting, make it better!
For the amount of money Twitch would be making considering the revenue split, shouldn't they be adding more features instead of taking them away? This is going to impact the smaller streamers who could become larger ones so it's very unfair
Hosting drives traffic to the hosted channel, which is crucial not only for the streamers themselves, but for veiwers to find out where communities have moved to after raids. It's ridiculous to take that feature away.