Stop with the Ads, Bring back Prime users being Ad free!!!
Since this change I've been driven further and further away from Twitch.tv as a platform. I find it ridiculous that the only way to not have to see this annoying Ad spam is by using my ONE prime sub or just not watching content on Twitch.tv. There is a major problem with that approach, and until something changes (and I'm certain thousands of others would agree here), I will no longer be using this platform for my viewing pleasure.I hope you guys get this figured out and find a better solution soon, like putting the Ads responsibility back on individual streamers, since that empowers THEM to generate revenue for themselves, as opposed to the obviously fake cop-out of "this ad supports -insert random streamer here- " since that just seems so disingenuous.
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ArakATK
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@Lunar_Umbra Well then bye Felicia. Listen, you had me up until you started talking bad about them trying to combat ad-blocking software. Listen, streaming services COST MONEY. If you want that platform to continue to exist you have to pay, now you can choose to pay with your wallet (subscriptions, Twitch Turbo, etc) or you can pay with your eyeballs (ads) but what you -CANT- expect them to do is let millions of people watch for -free- because it costs them to run the thing.
Now you CAN expect them to use ad content in an unabusive fashion. You can expect the right to request ads without tracking or curated content. But getting mad because they won't let you block content carte blanche without consequences? That's just asinine. They have the RIGHT to portray THEIR content however they see fit. And if combating people that are trying to use ad blocking software to leech off the site causes those leeches to go elsewhere, then I'd say that's a pretty successful strategy, and I hope after those leeches are gone, their operating costs go down enough that they can reduce the frequency of said ads a bit, and/or cut us in for a bigger share of ad rev.
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Lunar_Umbra
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Sharing my opinion, an excerpt from a I reply I sent for a scripted response to a support request:
The current ADS pre-roll and even mid-roll (triggered by the streamer) are HIGHLY Intrusive, Disruptive to the streamers content and the viewers experience. As I originally stated, it has caused me to drastically change my behavior when viewing streams. I open channels in new tabs, then mute the tab (Firefox), when I click the tab and if a pre-roll AD begins playing I either close the tab or immediately switch to another tab/window/program, completely ignoring whatever AD is playing (oversaturation of ad content tends to increase my disdain for the product/service being advertised). This is detrimental to the streamer, depending on how disturbed I get from being interrupted by an AD there is a chance I may not even go back to that tab to continue watching. Given this behavior, I will likely NEVER use the Twitch app on any of my devices due to the overwhelmingly disruptive AD content.
On another note, please stop interfering with legitimate user utilities like content filtering extensions for web browsers (ad blockers). Over the last month or so, there has been a constant back and forth struggle for adapting new methods to filter content on the USERS End with Twitch making modifications to its content presentation that bypass the users desire to not view that particular content within their browser. Once the content of a website is on someones computer, they have the right to view it in whatever way they desire. If Twitch does not understand this, then they fundamentally do not care about the users privacy, security or even their satisfaction. Just as many other entities, Twitch appears to be treating the users of their services as just another source of information monetization regardless of how poor the experience may become.
As a consumer, for any service or product, I procure and use it at MY Leisure. If it is not convenient to do so at my own leisure then I will choose not to at all. There is a simple solution; reverse what has been done - instead of presenting the AD in the main player section, show it in the small player above chat or picture-in-picture (such as during full screen viewing), maybe even just an image as a banner ad (animated or static). Personally I despise any website that has auto-play content, especially AUDIO; this is a sentiment shared by many. The best solution is to not have ads with audio content. Perhaps adjust tiers of advertising types for different monetization and then let the streamer fully control the types of ads they want to present if any at all (as part of their contract or better yet at their own leisure for freedom of choice).
For now I am taking a break from this struggle, as the easiest way forward to avoid content I don't want to see is to reduce or completely stop my usage of Twitch for the near future. Please don't even think about recommending "Twitch Turbo", the ad-free viewing should have always remained part of Prime benefits. I would gladly trade ALL these free games and in-game promotional content for ad-free viewing. I think I have claimed nearly every free game and only a handful of in-game content for games I actually play. Yet I have NOT downloaded/installed a single one of those free games yet.
I have a strong feeling that I will receive yet another scripted reply to my genuine concerns and feedback, with no one of concern having ever been aware...
Either way good luck with making users feel dejected by your lack of concern for their experience with your service. Kappa
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sprode
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The Twitch routine...
Load stream -> Ad -> Chat doesn't load -> Refresh -> Repeat
And you expect people to pay for this? Ever since they started pushing the ads, the site has been junk.
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Spaaam
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I cancelled my prime subscription this month, Amazon I will buy another year if you return ad free viewing.
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MrBiscuitTheCat
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I will not be using twitch for anything other than watch the 1 person I use my prime sub on. I'll stick to YouTube for everything else. I used to watch a bunch of streamers, visit random streams and stick around after the person I was watching hosted someone, unfortunately this wont be the case if they are forcing ads on everyone. Ads should be run by the streamer ONLY. Fix it.
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joegibson0
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@Ghostzero We'll have to agree to disagree on that one for the first part of your comment.
2: I don't do ads period. I had enough of ads in the 90's and when I found ad blockers I never looked back on the ads as all it does is drive me to not buy their products no matter what it is. Ads work in reverse for me especially in repetition. Today while trying to watch one of the streams I follow, I had to refresh the tab 40 times to skip through forty ads to get to the streamer. And Twitch actually wants me to sit through ads? HA! I'm already a prime member, I see no reason to pay more money for another subscription service. As for Turbo: Limited exceptions to ads? no. That's a deal breaker for me. I prefer how it was before, where I was not assaulted by endless ads on whatever streamer I follow -
Brozach1
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Yo twitch would you please push Turbo as hard as YouTube pushes Premium. I didn't know that it supported all the streamers and disables ads for me entirely.
It's a great way to market it and tell streamers about it too. Use like Lower third and corner popup ads for it. Great place would be below the follow list where friends are.
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Anonymous
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I used to lurking around the twitch to find more streamers to watch. Guess what? I stopped that because every single time I switch to another stream ... and ad. And as a bonus, it's always the SAME ad, again, again and again. I cannot check what is the streamer playing, which language he/she is speaking, what's the stage of the game. I have to watch the ad first. I just started hating everything the ads are trying to sell and most of my free time I started going back to youtube because of this.
Now tell me again, marketing guy, how this greatly supports the streamers?
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GhostZero
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I see it differently, I think it's great to support the streamers through advertising. I even see communities where there is an active demand for asking for advertising. Because advertising also finances the streamer. "this ad supports ..." is also true. And if you are not the opinion, then ask the streamer. He gets at least the money.
If you want to enjoy Ad-Free Twitch, you can get a subscription that allows you to watch Twitch free of ads. https://www.twitch.tv/turbo
Advertising is shown when you start watching the stream & at the end of the stream. The streamer is responsible for advertising during the stream. So if you always see ads between the streams, it's because the streamer has started the ad block. This can be started by the streamer in the dashboard (a partner has a trigger button there).